They'll just make it illegal to price discriminate on having solar/batteries on your home and make normal people pay the price.
Just like they did with "net metering", which makes everybody without solar pay for the solar panels and the reason they're cost effective for individuals. If they got paid the wholesale electricity price of like 4 cents per unit instead of 20 cents nobody would do it unless it was a cabin or ranch somewhere with no grid power.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the electronics that start these fires, not the cells themselves.
The bigger the battery the more current they're capable of. More current means more heat. Even small consumer electronics with big batteries (large power banks, car jump starters, portable power packs, etc) produce a lot of heat when they charge or discharge the batteries. These energy storage facilities must produce some ungodly amounts of heat.
With all this green stuff people underestimate how fragile power electronics are. They cause battery fires, solar panel fires and they turn your 50.000 hour LED into a 2.000 hour brick.
It's a very different use case, even if they are 'the same', which I don't know if they are.
You can easily afford 20 euros on the price of a cellphone to make the battery less efficient or have better quality. As for what they are doing here, it's so inefficient to begin with, that they probably have to push the limits and specifications to limit their losses.
They are the same, all lithium-ion. You can actually look up the exact kind of batteries being used here, I just edited the link into my comment. They are Tesla Megapack batteries. Maybe his obsession with birth rates is to counter all the people who will die in battery fires.
There's more than just the materials used. For one, batteries in phones are extremely small. These, I assume, are enormous. You don't think they are collecting old Apple batteries and connecting them to each other, do you now?
Maybe his obsession with birth rates is to counter all the people who will die in battery fires.
Projection. You mean your obsession. You bring it up all the fucking time. He tweeted about it once.
(Now you can further demonstrate your obsession by providing the catalog of links you've compiled of the times that he's talked about it, along with all of the other people who've ever talked about it.)
I pity the fools who want to install batteries in their home for the climate cult.
They'll just make it illegal to price discriminate on having solar/batteries on your home and make normal people pay the price.
Just like they did with "net metering", which makes everybody without solar pay for the solar panels and the reason they're cost effective for individuals. If they got paid the wholesale electricity price of like 4 cents per unit instead of 20 cents nobody would do it unless it was a cabin or ranch somewhere with no grid power.
I still don't understand why these batteries are so much less safe in large quantities.
They're the same lithium-ion batteries you see in phones and power banks, and those don't go up in flames regularly.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the electronics that start these fires, not the cells themselves.
The bigger the battery the more current they're capable of. More current means more heat. Even small consumer electronics with big batteries (large power banks, car jump starters, portable power packs, etc) produce a lot of heat when they charge or discharge the batteries. These energy storage facilities must produce some ungodly amounts of heat.
Edit: Here's an article from a similar fire in Australia: https://esv.vic.gov.au/news/cooling-system-leak-led-to-victorian-big-battery-fire/ tl;dr coolant leak caused short circuit
With all this green stuff people underestimate how fragile power electronics are. They cause battery fires, solar panel fires and they turn your 50.000 hour LED into a 2.000 hour brick.
cheap chinese horseshit
That's it. I'm stupid for not realizing that sooner. These batteries weigh 23 tons, there must be millions of cells in them.
It's a very different use case, even if they are 'the same', which I don't know if they are.
You can easily afford 20 euros on the price of a cellphone to make the battery less efficient or have better quality. As for what they are doing here, it's so inefficient to begin with, that they probably have to push the limits and specifications to limit their losses.
This is just speculation, of course.
They are the same, all lithium-ion. You can actually look up the exact kind of batteries being used here, I just edited the link into my comment. They are Tesla Megapack batteries. Maybe his obsession with birth rates is to counter all the people who will die in battery fires.
There's more than just the materials used. For one, batteries in phones are extremely small. These, I assume, are enormous. You don't think they are collecting old Apple batteries and connecting them to each other, do you now?
Yes, that must be it.
Projection. You mean your obsession. You bring it up all the fucking time. He tweeted about it once.
(Now you can further demonstrate your obsession by providing the catalog of links you've compiled of the times that he's talked about it, along with all of the other people who've ever talked about it.)