“ThEY WouLd NeVer AtTack DeSanTis LikE TruMp”
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The nominee in 2024 can either be Ron DeSantis or Donald Trump again. There are no other candidates who even have a shot at winning the nomination.
I think I have already made the case for why nominating DeSantis is better than nominating Trump again.
I don't expect DeSantis to run D.C. like he ran Tallahasse. The problems in D.C. are at an institutional level. It is not possible to fix it magically through the actions of one man.
It is possible to chip away at the bureaucracy by focusing on clear policy objectives instead of blustering and grandstanding on social media.
What do I expect from a DeSantis presidency?
I expect DeSantis to hire actual competent people.
I expect him to chip away at the powers of the bureaucracy using all the power available to him.
I expect him to not care about what the media says about him and not to waste time arguing with them.
I expect him to not unnecessarily tweet out random comments that makes him unpalatable to large swathes of the electorate.
I don't expect him to be a modern Julius Caesar.
You seem to want a modern day Julius Caesar.
We are not going to be getting that regardless which of the two candidates available that we nominate.
DeSantis offers us a better shot at fixing the major problems plaguing the nation than a 78 year old Trump.
You can only pick between the options available.
In my eyes, the choice is simple.
I want FedGov discredited and have been quite consistent in my opinion that the country is better off with DeSantis as Governor of Florida and Biden as President than DeSantis as President and someone like Jeb! as Governor of Florida.
I want every Red state to look at DeSantis and ask itself why they don't have one. I want every Red county in a Blue state to ask itself why they don't have one as Sheriff. And I think that is why certain interests want DeSantis to run for President: because if he's not Governor it's easier to pretend leaders like him can't exist on the right. Because he's undoubtedly effective where he is, and I don't think he will be nearly as effective in DC.
That statement is batshit insane.
Keeping Ron as governor for two more years past 24 in Florida is not worth extending the Biden Presidency till fucking 2028.
The country cannot take another term of this hell.
Power at the state level has too many limits to actually deal with the major issues plaguing us all.
Reforming the federal level requires first obtaining the Presidency.
I rather have DeSantis as President than as Florida governor for only 2 extra years after 2024.
DeSantis' second term as governor would end in 2026. If he wins the Presidency, he loses only two years of a Florida governorship.
Obtaining a good chance to actually reform the federal level is easily worth the price of relinquishing those two years.
The part where you're off, is the part where you're assuming the federal level can, or even should be reformed. Instead of destroyed.
The future lies in securing state governments, whether to band together in secession, or to form a convention of states and abolish the present federal government and entrenched bureaucracy.
It does not lie in playing the same broken game that we've been playing for decades.
We can either live in reality and work on viable but imperfect solutions or we can chase unrealistic utopian ideals.
The conditions are not ripe yet for what you desire.
I'm afraid you're right. That needs to become a primary goal of the right and MAGA movements. On the federal level, Trump, DeSantis, or whoever we can get in as president needs to push from their side and start eliminating the federal government as much as possible because it's going to bloat back up when another Dem or neocon is in office. The foundations of the house are rotten and it can no longer be renovated. The only way to fix things is to give EVERYTHING back to the states, brick by brick. That's going to be hard for a big government guy like Trump but maybe we can put political pressure on him to do so.
From a PR and historical standpoint, it might actually look better for him. The media will attack him for anything "positive" he does in government, so don't bother. He should make it clear from the outset that his goal is to destroy and dismantle. He's coming in like a wrecking ball and bringing down the house. State why this is necessary. He'll be lambasted as usual but if he succeeds, the common man will respect him for it. From the media's "more government is always good" perspective, it will be harder for them to spin his accomplishments as failures if his answer to all their criticisms is a Chad Yes.
The Republicans never actually did that by the way. Conservative mantras of "shrink the government", "cut taxes", "end funding of xyz" don't ever lead to the functional elimination of federal government. At best it's always a temporary funding stop.
I think the institutional rot is so awful that we need four years of Trump and eight years of Desantis.
Four more years of Trump is a very hard lift on it's own.
If Trump somehow is able to win in 2024, we will be doomed to eight years of Dem rule afterwards.
Better to go with the option that gives us 8 years.