Tim Russ played a lot of characters in Star Trek, as well as other things like the 'We ain't found shit!' "Desert Combing Trooper" in Spaceballs.
Voyager later retcons Tuvok having been an ensign on the Excelsior during Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and while Russ had another role during ST: Generations as an LT on the Enterprise B he didn't have Vulcan ears for that part. Still, the LT was that minor a character and set after Tuvok's time as an ensign on Excelsior it wouldn't be the worst head canon to suggest it was the same character.
We're getting into a really weird subject that Star Trek never covered. There is no way everyone from a single planet looked the same and had the same culture. There should be bagel shops in Klingon, and multiple languages to go with that shop.
It was easier to tell the story as if the planet only had one culture of several billion people. Tuvok was a sign of this thought process, but not an end result of it. I doubt Star Trek will ever really cover these ideas because the stories would get too convoluted.
An extremely good point! You almost never see ethnicities of demi-humans or aliens done naturally in this type of shit. Ethnic variants come about via long-term evolution in different climates. There's a reason people can look as different as they do, and it's not culture-based. But then you put someone like that in a setting where they are the odd one out, for dIvErSiTy. It makes no sense in medieval fantasy settings. Star Trek though, everything is already being brought together by the Federation, and the various races are all space-faring, so cultural isolation can only be a choice rather than nature taking its course.
The biggest diff is.. back then, they probably werent really promoting it as "come look at our newest star trek! It has black vulcans!" Maybe it did, but didnt have retarded tweets about it since interner was still relegated to nerds.
A show or game is shit when it promotes diversitt as something special when its not. Its a clutch to use if they got nothing else good to say about ths show or game. Most people dont care about diversity as long as it has good story, good mechanics, good music, good voice/character design, and etc.
Ive been saying this a lot. Entertainment is supposed to be enjoyed, not to be lectured. When a medium or character or whatever is made to lecture, its dumb. No one wants to be lectured. Might as well go to school to get lectured. Sure there can be diversity, we are used to diversity. But we sure dont like being lectured on diversity in this day and age. Just how ground breaking can it be when then 1001th super hero comes out queer????
I don't think there's some massive community of Tuvok haters out there. There isn't even really Voyager haters out there. Apathetics, sure, but active haters? Few and far between.
NOTABLY... Not even brought up in the video. That's how little hate there is for Tuvok. Dude's just there. Not commented on. Clickbait. Thumbs down. Channel clicked as "don't recommend to me this channel".
And yet, as little importance as Tuvok is, he's dominating the discussion here. Why? Because of this exact reason: He just "was". There was no big bruhaha about him being there, or highlighting when he was competent for any reason except "he did his job". No wall-to-wall coverage when one of the season finales circled pretty much entirely around him specifically. He was there. He was Tuvok. That was that.
Leave Tuvok out of this!
Yea. It’s not like Tuvok was a race swap. I’m sure Vulcan has hotter regions. Great video overall though and true
Tim Russ played a lot of characters in Star Trek, as well as other things like the 'We ain't found shit!' "Desert Combing Trooper" in Spaceballs.
Voyager later retcons Tuvok having been an ensign on the Excelsior during Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and while Russ had another role during ST: Generations as an LT on the Enterprise B he didn't have Vulcan ears for that part. Still, the LT was that minor a character and set after Tuvok's time as an ensign on Excelsior it wouldn't be the worst head canon to suggest it was the same character.
Oh yea! One of my favorite space all scenes. I do remember him popping up throughout Star Trek
Every depiction I've seen that wasn't a city was desert.
Oh yea. I never thought of that. Spock is my favorite Vulcan but I liked Tuvok as well.
Some regions could still have more UV radiation than others.
We're getting into a really weird subject that Star Trek never covered. There is no way everyone from a single planet looked the same and had the same culture. There should be bagel shops in Klingon, and multiple languages to go with that shop.
It was easier to tell the story as if the planet only had one culture of several billion people. Tuvok was a sign of this thought process, but not an end result of it. I doubt Star Trek will ever really cover these ideas because the stories would get too convoluted.
An extremely good point! You almost never see ethnicities of demi-humans or aliens done naturally in this type of shit. Ethnic variants come about via long-term evolution in different climates. There's a reason people can look as different as they do, and it's not culture-based. But then you put someone like that in a setting where they are the odd one out, for dIvErSiTy. It makes no sense in medieval fantasy settings. Star Trek though, everything is already being brought together by the Federation, and the various races are all space-faring, so cultural isolation can only be a choice rather than nature taking its course.
He wasn't even the first black Vulcan. There were some black Vulcan background characters in The Search for Spock.
It wasn't Tim Russ's first Star Trek role either. He was the terrorist that got VULCAN NECK PINCHED by Picard.
He was also on the bridge crew of the Enterprise B in Star Trek Generations.
"Cultural vandalism". I like that!
Thanks for posting this. I subscribed to to his channel. I do like Tuvok though lol.
The biggest diff is.. back then, they probably werent really promoting it as "come look at our newest star trek! It has black vulcans!" Maybe it did, but didnt have retarded tweets about it since interner was still relegated to nerds.
A show or game is shit when it promotes diversitt as something special when its not. Its a clutch to use if they got nothing else good to say about ths show or game. Most people dont care about diversity as long as it has good story, good mechanics, good music, good voice/character design, and etc.
Ive been saying this a lot. Entertainment is supposed to be enjoyed, not to be lectured. When a medium or character or whatever is made to lecture, its dumb. No one wants to be lectured. Might as well go to school to get lectured. Sure there can be diversity, we are used to diversity. But we sure dont like being lectured on diversity in this day and age. Just how ground breaking can it be when then 1001th super hero comes out queer????
I don't think there's some massive community of Tuvok haters out there. There isn't even really Voyager haters out there. Apathetics, sure, but active haters? Few and far between.
NOTABLY... Not even brought up in the video. That's how little hate there is for Tuvok. Dude's just there. Not commented on. Clickbait. Thumbs down. Channel clicked as "don't recommend to me this channel".
And yet, as little importance as Tuvok is, he's dominating the discussion here. Why? Because of this exact reason: He just "was". There was no big bruhaha about him being there, or highlighting when he was competent for any reason except "he did his job". No wall-to-wall coverage when one of the season finales circled pretty much entirely around him specifically. He was there. He was Tuvok. That was that.
Tuvok is awesome. That's all.