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Putin to shut off Nordstream 1 natural gas until sanctions are lifted (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by redman012 2 years ago by redman012 +76 / -2
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– TheModernDaVinci 4 points 2 years ago +9 / -5

Exactly. I always see people bring up how its terrible that all these countries joined NATO and that is a threat to Russia. But I never see those same people stopping to ask why they join NATO.

But I suppose it is irrational. After all, none of those nations have histories with Russia. None of them have any reason at all to hate Russia. They definitely werent oppressed for centuries and are now saying "Never again" at the concept of Russian aggression. And If something like that happened, I am sure it would not make them want to join a military alliance for the purpose of protection. It would also have nothing to do with seeing threats of Russian aggression and responding with "Do it pussy! Make my fucking day!"

It really is a mystery why Poland, the Czechs, the Slovenians, the various Baltic states, and others are giving Ukraine just about every weapon that isnt nailed down, with a note attached saying "Give'em hell!"

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– Hogbutcher 2 points 2 years ago +3 / -1

You don’t shit where you eat. When Ukraine falls, tag you’re it. Nobody wants that musical chair as bullwark against the east. Still doesn’t mean Putins not making the right moves. Sucks, but this order was placed before it was served.

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– TheModernDaVinci 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

I dont understand what you mean. None of them want to be part of Russia, and so they will all fight for their freedom. If Russia wants someplace to not "shit where they eat", they can go to Belarus (who is the only former Soviet state that actually likes Russia). Every other nation in that region would sooner burn it all to the ground than go back to Russia. And quite frankly, I dont fucking blame them. And even if they lose, I hope they drag millions of vatniks to hell before they fall.

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– Yakuza 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Nations aren't people and don't have wants. I know it's a turn of phrase, but im just saying there are plenty of people in Ukraine who dont want the war to go on any longer.

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– SupremeReader 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

The Ukrainians didn't want the war to continue, which is why they elected a pacifist on the platform to end it (he practically did, as the trenches largely fell completely silent and even in the country people have forgot about the frozen conflict).

Then they were betrayed by Russia that all of sudden invaded their country full scale for no reason, after lying they're not going to do it, and murdered the lot of them, and so their mood has changed.

That's including the once marginal Nationalists (with 0 seats in the parliament) becoming the dominant political force, and dominant in the military and other force structures too.

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– OldBullLee 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I can dig your irony.

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