The truth is that people don't really know when "life begins". Even if they believe it begins at conception, they don't KNOW that for a fact, and they aren't willing to lay down their life for it.
I (and all of us) would immediately take up arms. Like really, we all would.
History suggests that almost no one would. When the state is committing mass murder, most people are going to keep their head down in the hopes of not becoming one of the victims, rather than sacrificing their hide for others.
Civil wars occur when a powerful faction has its interests threatened, not because the state is acting immorally, which it almost always is. If the state started killing people who count, that might cause a civil war. Fetuses don't count, as they do not have any power.
I think your view of human nature is far too optimistic.
If there was a state-sanctioned killing of tens of millions of 6 year olds over decades with no sign of stopping, I 100% believe arms would be taken up.
Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. Arms against whom precisely?
In fact, many times throughout history there has been state-sanctioned killing of children.
6 year olds have no power. This response would be purely a matter of moral indignation.
Moral indignation does not exist. Any response would be because people would fear for their own children, or grandchildren, or for the societal consequences of it.
People just don't treat fetuses morally like 6 year olds in practice (which is why it pisses me off that they pretend like they do).
I think the more valid objection is to regarding fertilized eggs as equivalent to a baby.
If my close friends and family members were being murdered in state-sanctioned fashion, I would act. And so would you, and so would everyone.
History has repeatedly proven otherwise. The holodomor is the most obvious example. Disorganized masses do not spontaneously take up arms or resist the state in any meaningful sense. It is a liberal myth that the People magically rise up in response to oppression.
It is a refutation of your liberal delusion regardless of your choice to acknowledge reality. Your position has suddenly flipped from "If my close friends and family members were being murdered in state-sanctioned fashion" to "Hardline pro-lifers are not being materially oppressed at anything like that." Are those opposed to ritual child sacrifice personally afflicted by the state or not?
have you tried not being a faggot?
You first.
Is third trimester abortion murder when it is done for convenience?
Alright. Would it be murder if a fetus was killed a few minutes before it was due?
I don't hate them, but they would do well to learn about Clausewitz's "culminating point".
That said, take an upvote for voicing an opinion that is unpopular here.
Nice bait, faggot.
The truth is that people don't really know when "life begins". Even if they believe it begins at conception, they don't KNOW that for a fact, and they aren't willing to lay down their life for it.
History suggests that almost no one would. When the state is committing mass murder, most people are going to keep their head down in the hopes of not becoming one of the victims, rather than sacrificing their hide for others.
Civil wars occur when a powerful faction has its interests threatened, not because the state is acting immorally, which it almost always is. If the state started killing people who count, that might cause a civil war. Fetuses don't count, as they do not have any power.
I think your view of human nature is far too optimistic.
Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn't. Arms against whom precisely?
In fact, many times throughout history there has been state-sanctioned killing of children.
Moral indignation does not exist. Any response would be because people would fear for their own children, or grandchildren, or for the societal consequences of it.
I think the more valid objection is to regarding fertilized eggs as equivalent to a baby.
History has repeatedly proven otherwise. The holodomor is the most obvious example. Disorganized masses do not spontaneously take up arms or resist the state in any meaningful sense. It is a liberal myth that the People magically rise up in response to oppression.
It is a refutation of your liberal delusion regardless of your choice to acknowledge reality. Your position has suddenly flipped from "If my close friends and family members were being murdered in state-sanctioned fashion" to "Hardline pro-lifers are not being materially oppressed at anything like that." Are those opposed to ritual child sacrifice personally afflicted by the state or not?