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Trump was willing to send 20k feds to fight back against his own supporters. (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by user20461 3 years ago by user20461 +37 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

and on the cancer that is Operation Warpspeed.

Which is the only reason there are no restrictions anymore.

And still you're complaining about it? Come on.

Trump still has the gall to say he is proud of the vaxxes even after he was booed at an Alabama rally. He recently bragged about the vaxxes by saying "I am proud of the word that I am not allowed to say".

And he's right. The number of people who are happy with the Covid vaccines vastly outweigh the tiny number who fanatically hate them, and who despite wanting freedom of choice for themselves regarding vaccines, would like to deny it to others.

He failed to stop election fraud

Because it wasn't there in significant enough amounts to alter the outcome. All the shady stuff they did was legal, unfortunately.

He didn't pardon Julian Assange or Edward Snowden.

And yet the chances of him doing that are vastly greater than DeSantis doing it. I'll be happy if he proves me wrong.

The cults of personality that have developed around hating Trump irrationally or loving Trump irrationally are both pathetic.

Considering that you called Trump "the orange buffoon", echoing the childish attacks of the wokies, I'm not sure you have much standing to make this comment.

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– SR388-SAX 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Which is the only reason there are no restrictions anymore.

When did this happen? Or are you just lying to cope with the fact that you've been pro-experimenting-on-unwitting-and-unwilling-humans even though the jabs were never fit for purpose and should have never been given an EUA?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

When did this happen?

In the first few months of this year.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

Vaccine mandates still remain at the federal level for federal employees, contractors, anyone applying for citizenship or permanent residency and health care workers.

Operation Warspeed is why these mandates are able to exist today.

Without it, so many people would not be forced to take this unnecessary shitty vax.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Vaccine mandates still remain at the federal level for federal employees, contractors, anyone applying for citizenship or permanent residency and health care workers.

Which is bad, but it in no way affects you and does not justify your raging hatredd.

Operation Warspeed is why these mandates are able to exist today.

Without it, a vaccine probably would have been developed anyway (even Cuba managed it), and you'd probably have had more restrictions for a longer period of time.

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– current_horror 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Jesus Christ you are a vaxtard lol

The number of people who are happy with the Covid vaccines vastly outweigh the tiny number who fanatically hate them

Yeah, that’s what happens when speaking out against the experimental injections gets you canceled. Might as well point to Kim’s approval rating in NK, too.

and who despite wanting freedom of choice for themselves regarding vaccines, would like to deny it to others.

What the hell does this even mean? Pointing out that the experimental injections were not properly tested, and that big pharma is undeniably dishonest and evil, does not equal “denying people their right to choose”. Outlawing prescription of a completely safe and effective treatment - ivermectin - was a denial of choice. Firing people who didn’t want the experimental injections was a denial of choice. How do you have this shit so inverted? Are you really this fucking stupid?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Jesus Christ you are a vaxtard lol

What's a vaxtard?

Yeah, that’s what happens when speaking out against the experimental injections gets you canceled. Might as well point to Kim’s approval rating in NK, too.

So just to be clear, you actually think that in the absence of 'cancellation', most people would say that it's a bad thing that the vaccines were developed at all?

Pointing out that the experimental injections were not properly tested, and that big pharma is undeniably dishonest and evil, does not equal “denying people their right to choose”.

But that was not the argument though. The argument was a blanket condemnation of the vaccine, which without a shred of doubt help some people. Now supposing that they are not 'properly' tested, whatever definition of properly you decide to adopt. Since vaccines, like all medicine, are about cost and benefit, that in no way precludes them being a very good thing for people who are at very high risk of COVID, like 80+ people - as even with all the uncertainty, they'd still do vastly more good than even potential harm.

To claim otherwise is to be fanatical.

Outlawing prescription of a completely safe and effective treatment - ivermectin - was a denial of choice.

And did you see me supporting that? I also take issue with your claim that ivermectin is 'effective'. It's certainly not demonstrated to be. But you may as well take it, since it does no harm anyway. See? Benefit vs. harm. Here's a potential benefit vs. basically zero harm. So take it!

Firing people who didn’t want the experimental injections was a denial of choice.

Yes, and so is "people who actually want the vaccine shouldn't be able to get them".

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– onetruephilosoraptor 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

VAERS data says otherwise and you refuse to accept the fact that the vaccine is shitty and that mandating it has harmed too many people.

Trump could have stopped election fraud by simply not engaging in a national lockdown in the first place. 15 days to flatten the spread were the pretext for mass mail in ballots.

We won't even know if DeSantis would pardon them or not until he is in a position to do so.

I don't attack Trump irrationally like the leftist clowns with TDS. The only few times I have ever called him an orange buffoon is when he praises the shitty vaxxes like on the day when he did at the Alabama rally.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

No one who could possibly be President is going to pardon Snowden or Assange, though I still agree with your criticism's of Trump overall. I'd also add the First Step Act and Platinum Plan. I hate that Trump tried to normalize "putting black people in jail for committing crimes is racist" among the right. I don't think anyone but Trump could have gotten away with that, either. His charisma and showmanship allow him to get away with that kind of crap.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I despise the Platinum Plan and the First Step Act.

I forgot to include it so thanks for bringing it up!

Trump also normalized supporting LGBT on the right. Something that doesn't sit well with me at all.

The man's charisma with the right allowed him to get away with so many non standard positions.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

VAERS data says otherwise and you refuse to accept the fact that the vaccine is shitty and that mandating it has harmed too many people.

I didn't say it should be mandated though. I said that it's good that it's out there for those who want to take it. And I suppose you have to commit yourself to the idea that it's bad even for 80+ year olds, even though just being sane on the matter would make you a whole lot more persuasive when arguing against the tyrannical use of the vaccine.

Trump could have stopped election fraud by simply not engaging in a national lockdown in the first place.

He had no authority to shut down anything to begin with.

We won't even know if DeSantis would pardon them or not until he is in a position to do so.

Correct. But DeSantis is clearly more establishment than Trump, and the establishment hates them. That is why I am skeptical.

I don't attack Trump irrationally like the leftist clowns with TDS. The only few times I have ever called him an orange buffoon is when he praises the shitty vaxxes like on the day when he did at the Alabama rally.

That is irrational, and using the same vocabulary to boot.

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– Kamikazefist 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Awh, come on AoV. You're better than this.

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

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