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posted 3 years ago by folx 3 years ago by folx +61 / -0
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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 46 points 3 years ago +46 / -0

Oh no! She might have had to give up her dreams you guys! Her dreams of fucking a bunch of dudes and drinking, and working a shitty useless job as a copy editor, and traveling to Europe to fuck more dudes, there’s no way she could do all of that without abortion!

I’ve heard plenty of stories of women who regret getting abortions but I’ve never heard the opposite. Your shallow, vacuous “dreams” are nothing compared to raising a child in a loving family.

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– current_horror 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0

This attitude towards abortion is only possible thanks to the insane solipsism that our society has nurtured in women. All of the girl power and yas kween messaging, all of the cheap social media validation, all of the institutional support and favoritism, has convinced worker bee girls that they’re really the center of the universe. They’d rather hamster wheel rationalizations for baby murder than give up their “dreams”.

Meanwhile, in reality, plenty of women accomplish their dreams and don’t kill their kids. And the only way to guarantee that you are the center of someone’s world is to create that someone.

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– Gizortnik 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Meanwhile, in reality, plenty of women accomplish their dreams and don’t kill their kids.

I wouldn't normally say this to you, but... go further than that. The problem is that we've trained women and girls to think that their real dreams involve being a valuable corporate asset in a white-collar syndicate.

Meanwhile, most little girls play with dolls of babies because when they are 5 and 6, the bludgeon of socialization doesn't have as much of an effect as the biological imperative of care does. They want to raise kids even as kids, simply because of a biological imperative. Our society beats that out of them to maintain a larger pool of corporate labor to drive down wage growth. We teach girls that it's stupid and childish to want kids; followed by teaching them that it's dangerous and ruinous to have kids. Until finally in their late 30's, biological imperative rears it's ugly head and screams at them to have kids, only realizing far too late that socialization can't simply block out biological imperatives.

Women of older generations grew up helping to raise their brothers and sisters. Eventually, they would realize that they could probably do the whole thing on their own and have their own family. Women would dream of being a loving mother, of a large family, at the center of guidance and status within a social community, made up of many of her own kin, or the family of her best friends. That was the dream of women. It's a good dream that we beat out of them.

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

If I had to pick out the happiest and most content women I know, it would definitely be the few that live that good dream. Their peers aren't usually all that nice to them about it either, as if they betrayed women by passing on the valuable corporate dream.

Even myself as a guy have put a lot more emphasis on family in the last couple years instead of just ignoring or disliking all but the most immediate family. It's really made me a lot happier. I don't know if there's something to the adage that blood is thicker than water, but some of these family relationships I've built from nothing in such a short time are closer than friends I've had for a decade and I wouldn't trade for anything in the world.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Their peers aren't usually all that nice to them about it either, as if they betrayed women by passing on the valuable corporate dream.

"Women hating other women that succeed." A tale as old as time.

I don't really understand why I don't see much in the annals of history about men protecting women from women. It seems like that should actually be a man's first priority. A man might try to steal your woman, but a woman wants to kill her.

I don't know if there's something to the adage that blood is thicker than water,

There typically isn't. It's certainly not thicker than money, because money stacks. You have to have a very good family for them to not start crawling out of the woodwork when they smell money, and we live in too degenerated of a society to rely on that.

some of these family relationships I've built from nothing in such a short time are closer than friends I've had for a decade and I wouldn't trade for anything in the world.

Yeah, the value of relationships are what gives life meaning. The issue is that most people don't know that living in an atomized society. The thing is, as you say, we'd have to build them from scratch.

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– BigDaddyDangler3 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Primates instinctively pick out toys suited for their sex (aka gender - which has always been synonymous with sex despite leftist scrREEching, otherwise you wouldn't have 'IT'S A BOY'/GIRL! and gender reveals, etc.). The tested chimp females played with girls stuff like dolls and stuffies, and kitchen toys. Boys went for the "sTeReOtyPicAL" male toys.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Babies did the same.

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– cccpneveragain 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Your shallow, vacuous “dreams”

That is so it. Tons of people my age (near 40) are still like this. If I were to watch them apparently their dreams are working their dead end job to enable them to continue their lives of unfettered sex and alcohol consumption. I'd say let them be, but in my experience they've been the ones most judgmental of me. Because I'm a single guy too, the only lifestyle I'm supposed to want is their party world. I've been told I need to "grow up and start acting like an adult" more than once by these people. All because I'd prefer to spend a Friday night tinkering in the garage, or tag along a supposedly "boring" beach/ski trip or something with friends who have kids, or spend time being gaming buddies with my kid cousin. Yet they are the ones always bitching about their unhappiness, stress, depression, etc. and I'm happy with my life.

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