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Empire To Expand NATO In Response To War Caused By NATO Expansion (ronpaulinstitute.org)
posted 3 years ago by NotAGlowy 3 years ago by NotAGlowy +26 / -0
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– dekachin 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO. Fuck Erdoğan and his little hostage negotiations with Sweden and Finland.

Also, I'm laughing at anyone who would call NATO - a defensive alliance - an "empire", when it has absolutely none of the trappings of an empire, and in fact, all of the meaningful "empire" elements - if any - are more properly enshrined in the formation of the EU, not NATO.

edit: anti-americans seething

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– cartoonericroberts 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

NATO isn't the empire; it's a vassal of the Globalist American Empire.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Funny how you claim America has an "empire" yet America gets absolutely none of the benefits from this "empire" that every past historical empire has always received from its vassals and territories.

  • No foreign military force is under the control of America and none of obligated to serve America when called upon for any reason - even the late British Empire - the loosest of all empires with its "commonwealth" system - could compel military servitude from commonwealth countries. Can America? No. Proof: we haver to ask nicely and hope other countries agree to help us, and plenty of times they either outright refuse (Turkey in the Gulf War) or give a tiny amount of token help that makes no difference.

  • America gets 0 economic advantages. American companies have to compete with foreign companies without any advantage. Could you imagine an Imperial Japanese company having to COMPETE with foreign companies to exploit the conquests of Imperial Japan? Nope.

So by what metric does America have an "empire"? The obvious answer is: none.

America is PART of a HEGEMONIC COALITION comprised of the US, EU, Commonwealth, and Japan/Korea/Taiwan.

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– cartoonericroberts 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, a real "COALITION" not being totally run by the US State Department. I believe this is the real power structure because I'm retarded you see.

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– NoGardE 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

When was the last time that NATO troops fought a battle within the borders of a NATO country?

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Paris 2015 (attack by Islamic State).

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– NoGardE 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I don't know if CIA stooges count as NATO troops.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Sounds like the alliance is highly successful then, doesn't it?

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– NoGardE 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's an Empire. Empires fight expansionist wars, until they over extend and start having internal political turmoil, economic collapse, and falls to social degeneracy as previously conquered tribes start to get away with not integrating. Then they fall apart and hundreds of years of civil structures are destroyed.

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– Hogbutcher 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Go to retard school.

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– TentElephant 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

How many NATO countries have a US military base in them?

How many NATO countries have a military base in the US?

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

The reason no other countries have military bases in the US is that:

  1. The US is far away from all the threats, and

  2. The US doesn't need anyone else's help

The reason the US has military bases in other countries is that:

  1. These countries are in close proximity to neighbors who act in a threatening, belligerent manner, and

  2. These countries want the US taxpayer to subsidize their defense.

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– TentElephant 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Ah yes, the UK and Spain are famous for their proximity to threats to Democracy. This is some serious liberal delusion.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This is some serious liberal delusion.

I'm one of the most anti-lib people in this sub or on this earth.

Ah yes, the UK and Spain are famous for their proximity to threats to Democracy.

The UK and Spain joined NATO because they knew if the USSR was able to smash through the fulda gap and conquer western europe, they would be next.

Also the US has almost no presence in Spain, for the obvious reason that Spain isn't "close to the action" as you point out.

Naval Station Rota is SPANISH naval base under SPANISH command in which the Americans are invited guests. It's obviously there as a strategic naval base because of its proximity to Gibraltar. Rota and the nearby Morón Air Base, are Spanish bases that Spain allows the US to use for logistics purposes, as the bases are used for refueling on the way to and from the Middle East.

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– Valis3 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

NATO should be over when USSR ended. This Ukraine war was created to increase military production against Russia and China. NATO is a joke and should end.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

NATO should be over when USSR ended.

Except we now know in hindsight how stupid that would have been, since Russia remained a hostile threat even after the USSR collapsed. If Russia's thug regime collapses and is replaced with a peaceful democratic government, then I would agree that NATO would have nothing left to do except bully small countries like Serbia & Libya.

This Ukraine war was created

...by Putin. Putin is 100% the reason for this war. He gave the order to invade, against the advice of some of his senior advisors, who he bullied and humiliated in public because they tried to warn him. I speak, of course, of Sergey Naryshkin. We all saw the video of Putin humiliating and intimidating him in public right before the invasion.

to increase military production against Russia and China.

Why would Putin want to increase military production against Russia and China? That's strange! You seem to be arguing that Putin didn't start this war. That makes you a schizo.

NATO is a joke and should end.

I don't see anyone laughing. You might want NATO to end because you want to see the rise of evil Russian and Chinese empires. I sure as fuck do not. The dreams of a resurgent Russian Empire are already dead, we are just watching the slow motion train wreck that were Putin's imperial dreams play out in the Donbas.

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