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I live in those communities right now, and own a business here, and I can promise you that they do. There is a great big class of people that do what they need to do--but only that much--to support themselves. We're having a hard time down South right now economic-wise solely because the lower-level people we need to do grunt work have too much cash in their pockets, given to them as various forms of "aid" or "assistance." They will not get their butts back in the kitchen, in the stock rooms, in the shop, etc. until their magical free money runs out.
Not only do I know this, but it's incredibly widely known. The whole Country is experiencing this at the same time, in the same way, for the same reasons. It's not that there's a lack of jobs, it's that a huge chunk of people don't see why they should bother. The incremental improvement to their life isn't worth putting in the effort. Just like every other time this has happened, when the bennies dry up, they'll drag themselves to work.
Also--what were we talking about? Right, the idea that the Administrative State placates the plebes with subsistence, because they're just that nice, especially to the underclass in Red States. Without that magic money paying our able-bodied layabouts to not work, we'd suffer. Is that seriously what we're still going for here? Because you know, that's a type of suffering I'd be more than willing to risk. Let's try it and see how it goes.
And the problem I'm referring to existed long before this current problem compounding and making it worse. That there are people who will not drag themselves anywhere, and would do everything crime or scheme under the sun rather than work (even if it is more work to do so). And that they make up large quantities of a community across many Southern states.
I was the trailer trash running around the swamps, not the business owner. I got to watch the levels they would go to to exploit every angle possible for pennies when they would get dimes for the most basic of jobs. My own uncle never worked a single job in his 50 years, despite every chance to do so, so that he could scrape by on schemes and stealing. The very idea of work offended him, when he could beg and exploit others.
That might be what you were talking about, but I made it clear from the outset that I was not making a position on the issue. Only that if you wanted to "balkanize" you would have to deal with an issue that would bring you into some extreme racial conflict because an absurd amount of the black community in the South is both welfare born and unable to actually do any real job due to lack of education, experience, or even the ability to be a functional adult for 8 hours in a row.
Its easy to say "oh I'll risk the suffering" until roving gangs are plundering neighborhoods in desperation, and nobody is willing to deal with the issue because "well that's racist." Rape, robbery, and nearly senseless violence.
That last bit isn't fantasy. Its what Louisiana dealt with in communities that took in New Orleans refugees after Katrina, and the government handouts couldn't keep up.
Bud, there are some people who work your way. There are people who don't work the way you describe. I'm not interested in your irredeemables and your family drama, I'm interested in keeping the lights on. This requires constant observation of what is, not philosophical tangents into what I think this means about society.
You've got some ideas, and these ideas are clearly based on some things you've seen, then extrapolated. I'm not super interested in that, because rather than indulge in weird Mad Max eschatonic silliness, I've got bills to pay, family to feed, hands to compensate.
This guy Louisianas.
Then you should probably get to work instead of jumping in people's discussions about what ifs regarding political schicms and the possible consequences of it.
You probably should leave too. In your epic attempts to own me you are describing yourself too.