It's gotten high scores on all the ideologically poisoned "review" sites and scores ultra high among fans.
Just came back from it just felt like a good, old school action flick with a Hero's journey type of story. It's great, and it does a proper "sendoff" with a character (Rooster) being a strong link between the previous movie and this movie.
This is one of those "turn your brain off and enjoy the ride" sorta deals. It just tries to be a good movie, and it's damn good. Lots of FUCK YEAH AMERICA tones to it as well.
I still want to know who the "enemy" they were fighting are though. Considering the wintery location it must be a reference to Russia, with the Su-57's kinda making an appearance as their opposition.
Regardless it's a great movie, even leftist publications are praising it. Go watch it if you have time.
I just saw it. I also agree that its a shockingly good sequel to the original and worth seeing. The people who made this movie obviously cared about the original movie, gave it just the right amount of fan service, and had enough ties with the original to make it a legit sequel and not some skin-suit reboot that I was fearing it would be.
The dialog mentions that the enemy is Iran, with them attacking an Iranian nuclear facility in the mountains. That's why the movie has an F-14 in it, because Iran is the only country that still flies it.
Having rewatched the original Top Gun before seeing Maverick in cinema, I agree that this is a proper sequal with good fan service. I've actually enjoyed it, had quite some laughs here and there. Definitely felt sincerely like a movie made for Americans by Americans.
That's a good way to put it. Really felt like a FUCK YEAH, AMERICA movie made by someone who actually gives a shit.
Inshallah azizi we make Allah proud
According to that one drunk guy it's not a marvel style cg fuck fest where nothing looks real.
That's more or less the only reason anyone needs to throw some money at it. CG animation, much less CG in what's supposed to be a """""live action""""" movie needs to fucking die.
CG itself isn't bad its how its used
its a tool that can be used to enhance an existing scene and practical effects
problem is hack film-makers use it as a universal fix-all, why bother making actual sets and using actual practical effects it can be all done with the magic of CG
the only "live action CG" film I let pass is James Camerons avatar as they created a lot of the techniques and technology they needed to make the film while the story isn't brilliant (IMO the extended cuts fix some of the issues with it - and then the deleted scenes would fix more if they were finished and in the fucking film but would also add another hour) it was still a great showcase of technology and technique
more recent CG heavy live action films just fail at a fundamental level you got the marvel films with all the heroes reacting to jack shit on a soundstage with next to no props and no extras, at least avatar had props and extras on the soundstage with the extras doing things off camera so the actors had something to reACT to
Tom Cruise himself insisted that everything be as authentic and "real" as possible. They used actual fighter planes with the actors actually experiencing the G-forces that would be impacting the characters in the actual movie.
Everything was as practical effects as possible, and if they couldn't, I heard they used replica models. I imagine a lot of the reasons why it was so fucking good was Tom Cruise himself being autistic about keeping it as genuine to the sequel as possible.
Also it helps that Cruise, while he's much older, didn't feel like he was "out of his place" like old man Harrison Ford was with the Indiana Jones sequel that doesn't exist.
Maverick was good and everyone in the movie knew he was good. You didn't have to question it, it was a "Gary Stu" but who the fuck cares, he's still charismatic, he's still badass, and he's still a damn good pilot.
there's still overrepresentaion of negroes and Latina wahman, but at least they don't have much spoken lines after their intro scene
While true, it made no impact on the film and was never referenced in any way, shape, or form.
As far as I'm concerned, that diversity is the way it should be done (if it fits the setting)
They had a black recruit, a black rear admiral, and that big overweight black dude who was a bro to Maverick.
18% blacks in military, 16% Hispanics.
Slight overrepresentation, but at least it was somewhat believable.
Iceman was an Admiral, Cyclone was a white guy, the guy in charge (forgot his name) - that old fucking croon was a white guy. One of the new recruits was that cocky white guy stereotype (Iceman clone), etc.
I guess the best way to put it is it could've been WAY worse. They kept the socjus stupidity out.
If you guys have friends, you all knew of directly or know of guys in these groups who fit into these categories. That's what made it believable to me - I know a Hispanic vet and a black vet. My dad's a Vietnam Vet for the South Korean army and fought alongside the Americans against the Vietcong. Even the near Mary sue-esque female Latina pilot was believable, considering flying a plane doesn't require a similar kind of strength as lifting a ton of equipment.
looking at imdb, the new pilots: 5/12 white men, 2 black men, 1 Latino man that could pass as half black , one Latina woman, 1 Asian woman, 2 Asian men, i didn't mention the Asians because they disappeared after their 3 lines in the bar scene, but when they all walked in, one can't help but think hey diversity bingo
True, but they failed lol
Will definitely see it in cinemas, after a few weeks when the money doesn't go to hollywood.
Honest to god, this movie is a 9/10 for me.
Some dumb shit, and the romance plot is mediocre (due to it being a rando), but it's still good.
The music carried over, the font stayed the same as a throw back (which was what bumped it from 8 to 9 for me, attention to detail and consistency, not trying to change for Current Year+8).
I had to look this up afterwards but apparently Penny is mentioned multiple times in the original film, but not seen.
It's basically a rando. They did well by at least bringing the name back, but it's still someone who was never seen or really mentioned beyond throwaway lines.
It's not enough for me to dislike it though.
It was 100% fanservice and I bet Tom Cruise was responsible fo ra lot of it.
And I fucking loved it.
I'm glad to hear all this news about it.
Still not going to see Pedowood trash.
No female lead?
They had a super STRONK hispanic WAMEN co-star as the next generation of pilots.
The only thing is, they didn't bring attention to it. I actually know an army girl who's like her, so it was somewhat believable. These recruits are flying planes, they aren't lugging heavy gear down hostile terrain.
The new recruits was borderline feeling like a cringe diversity hire cast at FIRST, but considering the US military actually has a fiar number of blacks and Hispanics in it, it was actually fairly believable for them to have the cast. The Asian dude recruit was fucking call signed as "Yale" and has a fucking last name of Lee lmao.
Based Circus avoider.
I'm honestly surprised that Iran was allowed to be an enemy in current day for two reasons, one being that Persians usually aren't considered white and only white people are allowed to be enemies these days, and the other being that the current era democrat politicians want to give nukes to Iran.
The f14 is a sexy fucking plane though.
Saying "cut in to scrap" is one way to put it.
bruh, thsi is like watching a euthanization.
The only time I've seen them was when I was younger parked on some air base, at an air show, or as you said on mounted on posts.
It is hard to watch, and I can't imagine for someone who worked around them, but I get it. There really isn't a better way to "decommission" them given the gov really wanted to make sure Iran couldn't salvage anything.
Given the time when they were developed I am curious about the documents about the design and creation of the aircraft. Surely they were archived but where and how? Are they still available now? If so, are they Grumman's or US gov property?