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Once again western media lies while shilling for Ukraine. The VOG-25P cannot detonate without being fired from a grenade launcher. It is drop safe to 3 m, and has an arming distance of 10-40m. (archive.ph)
posted 4 years ago by CatoTheElder 4 years ago by CatoTheElder +36 / -0
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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Because they were preparing as a trap to Ukrainian soldiers for when they had to fight inside the city. There are also examples and reports from north of Kiev and the city around it of them booby-trapping closets, pantries and other places. So when the Ukrainian soldier opens the door, or triggers the trap they are either killed or maimed.

But, the killing of civilians by Russians makes sense. We just need to look at how they wage war(and the incident with their equipment, remember Kursk?) to see why they would act the way they do. If they don't care too much about the lives of their own soldiers, why would they care about the lives of civilians of the "enemy"?

EDIT: Some examples of booby traps https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1511782023555342337

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

So when the Ukrainian soldier opens the door, or triggers the trap they are either killed or maimed.

Urban warfare is such a terrible thing.

If they don't care too much about the lives of their own soldiers, why would they care about the lives of civilians of the "enemy"?

No one cares about his own soldiers unless he is made to care. I don't think this is as much a case of 'caring' or not 'caring'.

He will have to care about the civilians of the enemy, because he hopes to rule this territory. Moreover, it is used as propaganda against him. The very light hand in the early days of the war either shows not wanting to kill even enemy soldiers (in the hopes they would surrender), or extreme military incompetence.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Urban warfare is such a terrible thing.

It is, it really is.

No one cares about his own soldiers unless he is made to care. I don't think this is as much a case of 'caring' or not 'caring'.

NATO goes to great lengths to try and recover a soldier. Because the idea that when you are hurt or die, that someone will at least try to get to you is a great morale booster.

extreme military incompetence.

That's pretty much what Russia is doing. After seeing Russia in Georgia and now in Ukraine, extreme incompetence is what rules. The Moskva sinking, for instance, it was marred in incompetence, bad maintenance, and much more. https://twitter.com/GrangerE04117/status/1522643831736332288

We can even see on the tires of their trucks, they are still using tires built during the soviet union or shortly after it fell(before they could replace the forms). Worse still, they were even using like 3 or 4 nuts in a wheel that should take at least 8 or more. https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status/1521182849000423426

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– BidenLikesMiners 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

they took heavier losses by going light early on in the war.

saying "they dont care about their own soldiers so they also dont care about civs" is not exclusive in this war.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

is not exclusive in this war.

Nope, but it is something that seems to be a signature of the Russian army throughout the decades.

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