The results are reasonably close to polls from April (56% Marcos, 23% Robredo). If anything she gained a suspicious amount.
On a related note, the Philippines are basically a monarchy. Marcos' father ruled as dictator for decades. After being exiled for a while Duterte brought the Marcos clan back because they were longtime allies. Bongbong was effectively crowned by Duterte who couldn't run a second time. Marcos chose the daughter of Duterte as his vice president. She was mayor of a major city, a position she inherited from her father when he became president. Her brother was her vice mayor and took over after she ran for vice president.
I'm not sure if I would characterize it as a monarchy (that would be more befitting of North Korea or Turkmenistan), but it clearly shares parallels with other countries in that region in which political parties tend to be vehicles for elite families.
In Pakistan, you have the Bhuttos and Sharifs. In Bangladesh, you have the Sheikh-Wazed and Zia families. In Philippines you have the Marcos and Aquino families. If one of those families conclusively defeated the other, they would indeed look suspiciously monarchical.
Duterte was a bit of an oddball because he was able to break this duopoly. But just as Pakistan's Imran Khan has been replaced by another Sharif, we're seeing these elite families retake the Philippines as well.
I suppose if Aquino's son was the last President, making Marcos' son the next President doesn't seem that objectionable. However, it isn't a total counter-revolution against Duterte, since both Marcos' party and Vice President are both part of the Duterte faction. Whether Marcos has effectively puppetized the Duterte family, channeling their populism into serving establishment ends, or whether the Duterte family have puppetized Marcos, remains to be seen.
Duterte's daughter quite predictably screwed it up, since she would have sailed into the Presidency easily to continue his legacy if she didn't hesitate because she needed time to bring up kids or whatever, time which she all of a sudden no longer needs. But by the time she decided to enter the election, people already had their minds made up on Marcos.
You admitted to supporting Macron multiple times. Also, Macron calls himself a feminist. But your definition of feminist is a little different, it's "woman".
Actually, in Europe, hating men is probably a requirement to run for office.
You literally tagged me into Le Pen saying that she doesn't hate men. Or is your French so bad that you didn't even get that?
Thanks for drawing our attention to that. I had no idea that he was (by their standards) ultra-liberal. That being said, Duterte was also weak on sociocultural issues.
Things have been moving in the pozzed, Western direction there, but I guess we can expect the Philippines to really start following the West in earnest if Marcos is going to trigger the slippery slopes of abortion, divorce and alphabet nonsense. However, there are plenty of queers and trans and similar types around; they just aren't as much a centre of attention as their Western counterparts. Things definitely aren't going well in their university system, for example, some of which became clear bastions of anti-Duterte 'yellowtards' over the past few years.
There's something of a fight between populism (Duterte family), liberal-pluralist pro-Western bullshit (Marcos) and a vaguely Christian cuckservatism (Aquinos) going on there.
There has been a sort of agreement in which Marcos supporters effectively supported Duterte last election in return for Duterte supporters supporting Marcos in this election.
So, a lot of his supporters, yes. Marcos is now at the head of what is essentially a pro-Duterte party. However, Duterte himself basically claimed that Marcos would make a weak President. I don't believe he had ever officially endorsed Marcos even after it was clear that he had no successor to his legacy because of the bungling of two people: his daughter, and close ally Bong Go.
Because of his daughter's hesitation to run for the presidency until doing a partial U-Turn and deciding to run for VP, Duterte wanted a close ally who he has known for decades, Bong Go, to replace him. However, Bong Go also had limited motivation and didn't announce his candidacy until it was far too late, by which time much of the Duterte camp had decided upon Marcos. Bong Go then withdrew from the race, particularly because of poor polling and because he would only divide the Duterte supporters between himself and Marcos at that stage, potentially leading neither to win because of the Philippines' first-past-the-post electoral system (there is no Presidential runoff like in France).
Effectively, the reluctance of both people allowed the establishment to retake the Presidency.
Looks like there are at least three people who downvote every comment of yours, no matter how innocuous. That's three times the number I have. I'm so jealous.
BONGBONG is the way.
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Oh my god, JC! A bong!
I would have preferred President Pacman.
The results are reasonably close to polls from April (56% Marcos, 23% Robredo). If anything she gained a suspicious amount.
On a related note, the Philippines are basically a monarchy. Marcos' father ruled as dictator for decades. After being exiled for a while Duterte brought the Marcos clan back because they were longtime allies. Bongbong was effectively crowned by Duterte who couldn't run a second time. Marcos chose the daughter of Duterte as his vice president. She was mayor of a major city, a position she inherited from her father when he became president. Her brother was her vice mayor and took over after she ran for vice president.
I'm not sure if I would characterize it as a monarchy (that would be more befitting of North Korea or Turkmenistan), but it clearly shares parallels with other countries in that region in which political parties tend to be vehicles for elite families.
In Pakistan, you have the Bhuttos and Sharifs. In Bangladesh, you have the Sheikh-Wazed and Zia families. In Philippines you have the Marcos and Aquino families. If one of those families conclusively defeated the other, they would indeed look suspiciously monarchical.
Duterte was a bit of an oddball because he was able to break this duopoly. But just as Pakistan's Imran Khan has been replaced by another Sharif, we're seeing these elite families retake the Philippines as well.
I suppose if Aquino's son was the last President, making Marcos' son the next President doesn't seem that objectionable. However, it isn't a total counter-revolution against Duterte, since both Marcos' party and Vice President are both part of the Duterte faction. Whether Marcos has effectively puppetized the Duterte family, channeling their populism into serving establishment ends, or whether the Duterte family have puppetized Marcos, remains to be seen.
Duterte's daughter quite predictably screwed it up, since she would have sailed into the Presidency easily to continue his legacy if she didn't hesitate because she needed time to bring up kids or whatever, time which she all of a sudden no longer needs. But by the time she decided to enter the election, people already had their minds made up on Marcos.
lol, he supported Macron against Le Pen both times, because wahmen bad.
Actually, I didn't support anyone. I just gloated when a left-wing feminist didn't pass for right-wing and lost.
She literally told people she was a feminist. Did she really think she'd pass as a right-winger?
Actually, in Europe, hating men is probably a requirement to run for office.
You admitted to supporting Macron multiple times. Also, Macron calls himself a feminist. But your definition of feminist is a little different, it's "woman".
You literally tagged me into Le Pen saying that she doesn't hate men. Or is your French so bad that you didn't even get that?
I didn't support him last time. I didn't support anyone, they were all pro-feminism.
No, I did. I just realized all words after "I'm a feminist but.." are bullshit.
Well, it's either that or someone who literally calls their movement women's revolution.
I don't support him, I support everyone against her. He's a corrupt son of a dictator, but she'd be worse.
BTW, she is pro-life.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/01/26/22/conflicted-robredo-shuns-abortion-for-now-open-to-listening
We all know how much your principles mean to you. Unfortunately, you have only one.
Thanks for drawing our attention to that. I had no idea that he was (by their standards) ultra-liberal. That being said, Duterte was also weak on sociocultural issues.
Things have been moving in the pozzed, Western direction there, but I guess we can expect the Philippines to really start following the West in earnest if Marcos is going to trigger the slippery slopes of abortion, divorce and alphabet nonsense. However, there are plenty of queers and trans and similar types around; they just aren't as much a centre of attention as their Western counterparts. Things definitely aren't going well in their university system, for example, some of which became clear bastions of anti-Duterte 'yellowtards' over the past few years.
There's something of a fight between populism (Duterte family), liberal-pluralist pro-Western bullshit (Marcos) and a vaguely Christian cuckservatism (Aquinos) going on there.
Didn't Duterte or at least his party support Marcos?
There has been a sort of agreement in which Marcos supporters effectively supported Duterte last election in return for Duterte supporters supporting Marcos in this election.
So, a lot of his supporters, yes. Marcos is now at the head of what is essentially a pro-Duterte party. However, Duterte himself basically claimed that Marcos would make a weak President. I don't believe he had ever officially endorsed Marcos even after it was clear that he had no successor to his legacy because of the bungling of two people: his daughter, and close ally Bong Go.
Because of his daughter's hesitation to run for the presidency until doing a partial U-Turn and deciding to run for VP, Duterte wanted a close ally who he has known for decades, Bong Go, to replace him. However, Bong Go also had limited motivation and didn't announce his candidacy until it was far too late, by which time much of the Duterte camp had decided upon Marcos. Bong Go then withdrew from the race, particularly because of poor polling and because he would only divide the Duterte supporters between himself and Marcos at that stage, potentially leading neither to win because of the Philippines' first-past-the-post electoral system (there is no Presidential runoff like in France).
Effectively, the reluctance of both people allowed the establishment to retake the Presidency.
Just curious, how many voting regions needed an extra day to count?
I think none, but don't quote me on that.
Looks like there are at least three people who downvote every comment of yours, no matter how innocuous. That's three times the number I have. I'm so jealous.