I'm not a MGTOW but it was always funny to me how people tried to link the MGTOW and Incel movements, for obvious reasons, when MGTOW was never anything but "begone vile woman and leave me the fuck alone". There are various individual opinions among its followers like any group, but in general they don't advocate for anything and yet they still get banned in places. Women literally can't stand you criticizing or doing anything without them. Even supposedly non-feminist men attack them for some reason.
I think Imp's controversial reputation here has a lot to do with the anti-MGTOW sentiment on this site. I've found that the community is very receptive to MGTOW ideas when they're not caught up in the fights between Imp and his detractors.
MGTOW is very blackpill, and wallowing in darkness is not how you defeat anything. Imp catches shit because his worldview isn’t just dysgenic - it’s as dysgenic as it is possible to be. His ideas, followed closely, lead precisely to immediate extinction. With no plan to build for the future, the only alternative is meaningless hedonism. That’s no way for men to live.
Serious question here: What do you suggest as an alternative? I realize it isn't sustainable if everyone goes MGTOW, and that's all the reason to advocate for a system where MGTOW isn't the rational choice for most men. My own formulation of MGTOW is simply a bachelor lifestyle for myself. I don't view that as incompatible with trying to fight for a society that isn't a degenerate hell hole. But if all men going MGTOW isn't an option, they need a better solution than exposing themselves to rigged system that's dying to fuck them in the ass.
MGTOW men generally think women are emotional, superficial and aren't worth the effort. They don't think that women need to be avoided because they are coordinating of a vast conspiracy to destroy men .
I think Imp's controversial reputation here has a lot to do with the anti-MGTOW sentiment on this site.
Despite posting there and having a pinned post, I'm not technically MGTOW, because MGTOW doesn't try to fight the system. It's an ideology about protecting yourself and building a community, rather than taking the fight to the enemy and trying to take your rights back.
I'm not a MGTOW but it was always funny to me how people tried to link the MGTOW and Incel movements, for obvious reasons, when MGTOW was never anything but "begone vile woman and leave me the fuck alone". There are various individual opinions among its followers like any group, but in general they don't advocate for anything and yet they still get banned in places. Women literally can't stand you criticizing or doing anything without them. Even supposedly non-feminist men attack them for some reason.
I think Imp's controversial reputation here has a lot to do with the anti-MGTOW sentiment on this site. I've found that the community is very receptive to MGTOW ideas when they're not caught up in the fights between Imp and his detractors.
MGTOW is very blackpill, and wallowing in darkness is not how you defeat anything. Imp catches shit because his worldview isn’t just dysgenic - it’s as dysgenic as it is possible to be. His ideas, followed closely, lead precisely to immediate extinction. With no plan to build for the future, the only alternative is meaningless hedonism. That’s no way for men to live.
Serious question here: What do you suggest as an alternative? I realize it isn't sustainable if everyone goes MGTOW, and that's all the reason to advocate for a system where MGTOW isn't the rational choice for most men. My own formulation of MGTOW is simply a bachelor lifestyle for myself. I don't view that as incompatible with trying to fight for a society that isn't a degenerate hell hole. But if all men going MGTOW isn't an option, they need a better solution than exposing themselves to rigged system that's dying to fuck them in the ass.
His narrative is literally the feminist mindset, with the genders reversed.
Pretty sure that would be continuing on the current path.
MGTOW men generally think women are emotional, superficial and aren't worth the effort. They don't think that women need to be avoided because they are coordinating of a vast conspiracy to destroy men .
Despite posting there and having a pinned post, I'm not technically MGTOW, because MGTOW doesn't try to fight the system. It's an ideology about protecting yourself and building a community, rather than taking the fight to the enemy and trying to take your rights back.