It's insane how people are like "Ukraine is the good guys!" when they seem to be the ones pumping out propaganda in order to force NATO into the conflict like there's no tomorrow.
And of course, if NATO does get goaded into the conflict, then basically no one in the world is safe.
Seems the best position to adopt here is "Who gives a shit about Ukraine" if they're going to care so little for the safety of the world.
I don't even know if it's a shit option, they've been shelling their own Eastern province for years. At that point, it would save them money on artillery to let them secede.
It would give Russia control of the oil and gas pipelines into Europe. Among other issues, it would make stopping the nord2 an irrelevant bargaining tool.
It's insane how people are like "Ukraine is the good guys!" when they seem to be the ones pumping out propaganda in order to force NATO into the conflict like there's no tomorrow.
And of course, if NATO does get goaded into the conflict, then basically no one in the world is safe.
Seems the best position to adopt here is "Who gives a shit about Ukraine" if they're going to care so little for the safety of the world.
they could have just given up and let the east secede. sure it's a shit option, but war is obviously a worse one.
I don't even know if it's a shit option, they've been shelling their own Eastern province for years. At that point, it would save them money on artillery to let them secede.
It would give Russia control of the oil and gas pipelines into Europe. Among other issues, it would make stopping the nord2 an irrelevant bargaining tool.
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Russia already controls the oil and gas going into Europe, Europe buys a lot of it from him.
.old link plz?
Europe is afraid of green rocks that give off plentiful, safe, cheap energy. So they need the gigatons of coal and oil out of the Ukraine.