I finished the books spring of last year. Took me about a year. I enjoyed them. Once I heard the showrunner of the show I knew he wouldn’t respect the source material
The show at this point is almost a comedy of errors for me. I almost can't wait to see how badly they're going to ruin some of the characters. It's so distant from the books that it doesn't even make me angry: I can just view it as parody.
There is one particular villain who starts off as a man, dies, and the Dark One, known for his cruel sense of irony, reembodies the man's soul in a woman's body. Thing is, this character is already canonically established as indulging in deviant and immoral sexual appetites, so literally a man in a woman's body who is definitely a sexual predator. Just for shits and giggles, I really want to see how they approach that in the show, if they even touch it at all.
But I'm even more excited to see how they try to explain away Lanfear. It is beyond the cognitive and intellectual capacity of the modern hollywoke writer to portray a woman as having enough agency to be irredeemably evil, so I really want to know how they take the woman whose own self-indulgence and ambition motivated her to deliberately release the devil from his cage and kickstart the apocalypse, and try to show how her behavior is really some man's fault and she's just the victim.
Good point. I wonder about Lanfear and I heard about Moraine having a lesbian relationship. I know they mentioned the pillow friend thing but that didn’t seem like something that needed to be in the show. Plus she married a man
Regarding point 1: Remember every reincarnation done that way effectively kills the original soul/host of the body. The Dark One isn't making a new body for the Chosen he brings back, he literally just forces their soul into an existing vessel. So the creation of Osan'gar and Aran'gar [and the others] meant the deaths of a random man and woman in order for the return of those two Chosen. So Aran'gar, the "man in a woman's body who is definitely a sexual predator" as you describe him, only exists because a woman was murdered by the literal Devil of the story and replaced with a man who had already lived for centuries and then recently died.
Worth noting that this "Devil forces a soul into a different body" concept was recently done in an Immortal Hulk comic and when that experience was used by the character to try and empathise with a MTF in the comic the MTF went batshit at the suggestion their experiences were anything alike. Ofc this missed entirely the point that the character in the wrong body quite literally did have the worst of their two experiences what with the fact it was originally Doc Samson now stuck in the body of Sasquatch. But no, the pissy little MTF character had to have their soapbox moment and make everything about them despite Samson quite literally existing as he did then because The One Below All, the literal antithesis to God in Marvel: The One Above All, had forced Samson into someone else's body.
Back on point: channeling strength is linked entirely to the soul. This is why Aran'gar still channels Saidin and why those reborn don't lose any strength outside of special conditions. Those that do lose strength do so because of conditions inflicted upon them: Cyndane gets drained [too fast] by the Eelfinn [which in some ways is a blessing as she only goes from 1(+12) to 2(+12)] the other person that gets drained, albeit much more slowly, goes from 13(1) all the way down to 66(54) however gained the ringlet angral that effectively meant she could channel more power than her original base value, and Siuan is Healed by the wrong person [as it requires someone of the opposite sex to properly fix Severing]. There are likely other examples but those cover both the more significant characters and the methods involved.
Point 2:
try to show how her behavior is really some man's fault and she's just the victim
100%.
They will make every single concession possible to scapegoat her as she never had a third name in the Age of Legends which will be spun as "The Patriarchy" holding her back and it's not her fault that in order for her to be on equal footing as the men she needed to prove herself through dangerous means that meant she created The Bore and literally caused the Apocalypse. Watch them, as always happens, take all agency away from her and turn her into a victim where everyone else [especially Lews Therin who turned her down] is at fault. I'm not really expecting the series to get to the end in any reasonable form so if they do somehow get to the actual end of the books watch Twitter and other platforms go full sperg when Perrin snaps her neck with one hand in Tel'aran'rhoid just as she's about to murder Rand and the two women he's with who are literally fighting Satan at that moment.
But I'm even more excited to see how they try to explain away Lanfear.
Given how poorly the show has done things in general and that the following describes Lanfear,
She was quite tall, a little more than a hand shorter than Rand al'Thor, and had smooth, ivory-pale skin with long black hair and black eyes
We can assume that first of all her appearance will not match that in the slightest. And secondly as this is how her personality is described,
her defining feature was an insatiable lust for power.
As well as,
Many of those who she interacted with, including virtually all of the other Forsaken, have expressed the sentiment that she had a vastly overinflated opinion of herself.
In addition to
She was proud, arrogant, presumptuous, and self-absorbed, actively betraying both her allies and her master in order to gain more power for herself.
And summed up with
She appears to have had a particularly strong rivalry with Ishamael, the most powerful and most favored of the Forsaken, though the rivalry appeared to have been almost completely one-sided on her part. She was also extremely manipulative, and had absolutely no qualms about lying to, or using, virtually anyone to get what she wanted. Additionally, she appeared to have no loyalties except to herself.
We can expect a stronk and independent woman who don't need no man because she's totally awesome and not in fact a walking vortex of neuroticism that will use anyone and everyone because to her it's "all about me!".
Nuance is lost in live action adaptations and this show will just butcher every character of note for the woke agenda.
Much more than that, Lanfear is an obsessive with a classic case of Borderline Personality Disorder. She is incapable of regulating her own emotions and does everything by extremes. She is also incapable of feeling love or compassion for anyone other than herself, and effectively perceives the rest of the world and everyone in it as a reflection of her own desires.
She doesn't love Lews Therin Telamon: she loves the idea of him, and of the power that he wields. She envisions a future with him and her together, the most powerful male and female channellers using the most powerful sa'angreal ever created to magnify their power, destroying the Dark One and the Creator and ruling over the world as the new gods.
This is why she reacts so badly when Lews Therin rejects her, not once, but twice. She is obsessed with the idea of the power that she thinks he can provide her with, and she can't get it from anywhere else, and she can't get over his rejection of her because she can't imagine that anyone wouldn't want that kind of power.
Modern Hollywood could never portray that character faithfully, because she is too much like them. Lanfear is Hillary Clinton with superpowers, the kind of person who would burn down the whole world if she got to be queen of the ashes. None of the scriptwriters for this show possess enough self-awareness to be able to conceive of such a character, even though, being where they are, they're surrounded by exactly that personality type.
You're not missing much but if you're a fan of science fiction, I definitely recommend The Expanse. The first season can be difficult to get through but it really picks up towards the end and just gets better from that point on. The budget also increases so some of the tackiness in the first season goes away.
I'm all for detaching yourself from modern media and refusing to fund the enemy -- kudos to you for that -- but doing it simply because people in it are black or brown or female is an over-reaction. The Left weaponizes all sorts of things against the Right, but it's a bad move to let them shape your morality and values even if it's in the opposite direction. You're still giving them control in the end if you do this. We should be on the side of truth regardless of what our enemy does.
Also, maybe my memory is failing me but I can't think of a single gay character in The Expanse.
I finished the books spring of last year. Took me about a year. I enjoyed them. Once I heard the showrunner of the show I knew he wouldn’t respect the source material
The show at this point is almost a comedy of errors for me. I almost can't wait to see how badly they're going to ruin some of the characters. It's so distant from the books that it doesn't even make me angry: I can just view it as parody.
There is one particular villain who starts off as a man, dies, and the Dark One, known for his cruel sense of irony, reembodies the man's soul in a woman's body. Thing is, this character is already canonically established as indulging in deviant and immoral sexual appetites, so literally a man in a woman's body who is definitely a sexual predator. Just for shits and giggles, I really want to see how they approach that in the show, if they even touch it at all.
But I'm even more excited to see how they try to explain away Lanfear. It is beyond the cognitive and intellectual capacity of the modern hollywoke writer to portray a woman as having enough agency to be irredeemably evil, so I really want to know how they take the woman whose own self-indulgence and ambition motivated her to deliberately release the devil from his cage and kickstart the apocalypse, and try to show how her behavior is really some man's fault and she's just the victim.
Good point. I wonder about Lanfear and I heard about Moraine having a lesbian relationship. I know they mentioned the pillow friend thing but that didn’t seem like something that needed to be in the show. Plus she married a man
Regarding point 1: Remember every reincarnation done that way effectively kills the original soul/host of the body. The Dark One isn't making a new body for the Chosen he brings back, he literally just forces their soul into an existing vessel. So the creation of Osan'gar and Aran'gar [and the others] meant the deaths of a random man and woman in order for the return of those two Chosen. So Aran'gar, the "man in a woman's body who is definitely a sexual predator" as you describe him, only exists because a woman was murdered by the literal Devil of the story and replaced with a man who had already lived for centuries and then recently died.
Worth noting that this "Devil forces a soul into a different body" concept was recently done in an Immortal Hulk comic and when that experience was used by the character to try and empathise with a MTF in the comic the MTF went batshit at the suggestion their experiences were anything alike. Ofc this missed entirely the point that the character in the wrong body quite literally did have the worst of their two experiences what with the fact it was originally Doc Samson now stuck in the body of Sasquatch. But no, the pissy little MTF character had to have their soapbox moment and make everything about them despite Samson quite literally existing as he did then because The One Below All, the literal antithesis to God in Marvel: The One Above All, had forced Samson into someone else's body.
Back on point: channeling strength is linked entirely to the soul. This is why Aran'gar still channels Saidin and why those reborn don't lose any strength outside of special conditions. Those that do lose strength do so because of conditions inflicted upon them: Cyndane gets drained [too fast] by the Eelfinn [which in some ways is a blessing as she only goes from 1(+12) to 2(+12)] the other person that gets drained, albeit much more slowly, goes from 13(1) all the way down to 66(54) however gained the ringlet angral that effectively meant she could channel more power than her original base value, and Siuan is Healed by the wrong person [as it requires someone of the opposite sex to properly fix Severing]. There are likely other examples but those cover both the more significant characters and the methods involved.
Point 2:
100%.
They will make every single concession possible to scapegoat her as she never had a third name in the Age of Legends which will be spun as "The Patriarchy" holding her back and it's not her fault that in order for her to be on equal footing as the men she needed to prove herself through dangerous means that meant she created The Bore and literally caused the Apocalypse. Watch them, as always happens, take all agency away from her and turn her into a victim where everyone else [especially Lews Therin who turned her down] is at fault. I'm not really expecting the series to get to the end in any reasonable form so if they do somehow get to the actual end of the books watch Twitter and other platforms go full sperg when Perrin snaps her neck with one hand in Tel'aran'rhoid just as she's about to murder Rand and the two women he's with who are literally fighting Satan at that moment.
Given how poorly the show has done things in general and that the following describes Lanfear,
We can assume that first of all her appearance will not match that in the slightest. And secondly as this is how her personality is described,
As well as,
In addition to
And summed up with
We can expect a stronk and independent woman who don't need no man because she's totally awesome and not in fact a walking vortex of neuroticism that will use anyone and everyone because to her it's "all about me!".
Nuance is lost in live action adaptations and this show will just butcher every character of note for the woke agenda.
Much more than that, Lanfear is an obsessive with a classic case of Borderline Personality Disorder. She is incapable of regulating her own emotions and does everything by extremes. She is also incapable of feeling love or compassion for anyone other than herself, and effectively perceives the rest of the world and everyone in it as a reflection of her own desires.
She doesn't love Lews Therin Telamon: she loves the idea of him, and of the power that he wields. She envisions a future with him and her together, the most powerful male and female channellers using the most powerful sa'angreal ever created to magnify their power, destroying the Dark One and the Creator and ruling over the world as the new gods.
This is why she reacts so badly when Lews Therin rejects her, not once, but twice. She is obsessed with the idea of the power that she thinks he can provide her with, and she can't get it from anywhere else, and she can't get over his rejection of her because she can't imagine that anyone wouldn't want that kind of power.
Modern Hollywood could never portray that character faithfully, because she is too much like them. Lanfear is Hillary Clinton with superpowers, the kind of person who would burn down the whole world if she got to be queen of the ashes. None of the scriptwriters for this show possess enough self-awareness to be able to conceive of such a character, even though, being where they are, they're surrounded by exactly that personality type.
I have a rule of thumb to pretty much not watch or read anything after 2014. With rare exceptions
You're not missing much but if you're a fan of science fiction, I definitely recommend The Expanse. The first season can be difficult to get through but it really picks up towards the end and just gets better from that point on. The budget also increases so some of the tackiness in the first season goes away.
I'm brown and can't stand the Expanse. Even in the books, Holden is a grade A pompous jackass. Everyone else are fking caricatures of diversity.
The science in it is pretty spot on sci-fi. Too bad about the junk characters.
I'm all for detaching yourself from modern media and refusing to fund the enemy -- kudos to you for that -- but doing it simply because people in it are black or brown or female is an over-reaction. The Left weaponizes all sorts of things against the Right, but it's a bad move to let them shape your morality and values even if it's in the opposite direction. You're still giving them control in the end if you do this. We should be on the side of truth regardless of what our enemy does.
Also, maybe my memory is failing me but I can't think of a single gay character in The Expanse.