Just to be unequivocally clear: it's confirmed that Novak didn't break any rules & there were no determined issue with his paperwork or exemption, which was valid. Hawke states this clearly in the court docs. He was deported for the govt not liking his public opinions. That's it.
Serbia's PM/President should be calling the Australian ambassador and grilling him over the subject followed swiftly by declaring the entire embassy staff persona-non-grata and closing the embassy. Do it with Serbian military hauling them away to be deported televised to the world.
New based attractive female hero amongst all this: Bojana Novakovic, an actress (I think she has done some modelling, too, by the looks) who is, you guessed it, Serbian-Australian…
I don’t think any of it ever really went away, honestly…
There’s always been pockets of this nasty, autocratic bullshit (generally Latin America, Africa and the Middle East) - it’s just that in places like Australia it sort of just bubbled under the surface, or hid itself under a cloak/veil of “wholeness”, exactly as this current regime does…
See, this is the thing: Novak literally grew up in a war zone. In his childhood, he saw unspeakable shit, which almost no Australians born in this country (excluding those who grew up in remote Aboriginal communities, arguably), and certainly no politician, would ever have seen, or will ever see. That is the problem.
I’ve also come to the realization, this last week, that Australia just isn’t a “real”, functioning country, in the sense that, say, the US, or fucking Mexico, is…
We never fought for our independence. We never really drafted a proper, working constitution based on “protecting liberty”, or “the inalienable rights of the people”, or anything like that. No “amendments” to fall back upon. Uniquely, as a Western country, no “bill of rights”. No true “human rights charter”. And now we know, clearly, that we do not even have a truly independent court system…
The separation between the judiciary, the legislature and the executive? That fundamental tenet of parliamentary democracy? It is now apparent that does not hold. Here, in New Zealand, in Germany OR in France. It was all an illusion. Even in this supposed “stable” democracy.
We’re not a “free country”. We never were. We just lied to ourselves, and bullshitted to the rest of the world, claiming it.
We were never truly “invaded”. We never truly fought a hot war on home soil. Now we know exactly what sort of complacency, and contempt for the rule of law, that can breed…
Fuck Australia. Fuck this country. This should be a red line, a black day in the history of this bullshit facade of a “nation”.
I do not think history will look kindly upon today’s events, or the legal and human ramifications of the rhetoric which this court just signed off on.
All correct, the closest thing we have to ever having to defend our soil is some air raids in WW2, and a bunch of miners having a shootout with the Police in the goldfields, also something similar with rum tax.
I'm only familiar with Australian history and facts in passing, so thank you in shedding some light and explaining some of the stuff to me.
That is true, people who never experienced these hardships really tend to ignore or make bad choices that inevitably leads to that. The article said that Serbia will enact some diplomatic blowback against Australia. I fear it may not be big, nor will the Australian government care.
It is sad to see such a great country fall like that. I thought that a place that was used as a prison of sorts by England would understand the idea of freedom. But I guess I was wrong.
It is so very disturbing and disheartening to see what is happening there.
You know how Americans go on and on about the whole “greatest country in the world” thing..?
Imagine that, combined with the rhetoric of the “Shit Americans Say” subreddit, in order to differentiate Aus from the US (modern Australians really, really don’t like America. Americans? Fine. But America as a country? It’s the done thing, in “liberal” circles, to just… Endlessly shit all over America, and it’s obsession with “free-dumb”, in the words of my countrymen…).
Add to that toxic combination, a very, very strange dose of government-worship, and specific worship of the woke nanny state, in a way that I have never seen, in the northern hemisphere…
Even Jante countries aren’t quite this… Obsessed with “le state”, and “le government is right”, IMHO…
Only Australia, NZ, a few other Pacific countries, and, obviously, places like Argentina and maybe Chile, behave like this…
It’s bizarre.
But yeah, I could go on, but just…
When you think of “Australia”, you’re seeing the image governments here want you to see. That’s why you’re surprised.
I, as someone who was born in and grew up here, saw this coming a mile off. If it wasn’t this, it would have been “terror” (which they still use as an excuse to intrude in our lives, of course), or domestic violence, or… “We have to reform society to prevent climate change, or combat racism!”
There was always something coming. It’s just that this provided the perfect opportunity…
And unfortunately, I managed to find myself caught up in it.
Islands, man. There’s something about isolated, faraway islands that perhaps breeds this kind of shit. Combined with the prison colony heritage (which wokies seem determined to make us forget, btw), that you mention, you end up with a very, very weird state of play…
And then along comes Novak, and an insane government, both state and federal, decides to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Ooh, final thing: look up more of the rhetoric behind this decision. The “reasoning” the government gave. The powers that the minister has, here, and that the court signed off on.
That is what scares me, and that is what should worry you, too.
This is not really about Novak. It could’ve been anyone.
This is about a government that is treating unvaccinated people, including me, as “extremists”, increasingly akin to literal terrorists, and what happens to terrorists, you may ask..?
Remember though there are quite a lot of people that do like America, heaps of them in Melbourn and Sydeny, the all want to emulate places like California and New York though. Sad people IMHO.
Governments around the world have been searching for the right forms of words to use in order to scare people into just giving up their civil liberties for about fifty years or so, I think. Turns out it was this.
I saw the reason, it is absurd. I feel that it will justify the reaction people will have against the government. That despite him following all the rules, it was still not enough. Maybe it will have the Streisand effect?
But I do think you are right, and what happens in Australia may inspire other people elsewhere and happen in other places too.
America is powerful, as in, whatever happens there is almost guaranteed to happen in other countries. Australia may not hold that "advantage", as only America has that power, but it does have enough power to affect others.
You were absolutely correct, based on what you said, this was coming, one way or the other :/
The socialist propaganda to hate America is rife everywhere.
Best part is just how much Covid is in the country atm.
As of 17th Jan 2022, number of active cases is 4.925% of the whole population, so close to 1 in 20 have covid atm.
Someone coming into the country at this point will do fucking nothing.
Just to be unequivocally clear: it's confirmed that Novak didn't break any rules & there were no determined issue with his paperwork or exemption, which was valid. Hawke states this clearly in the court docs. He was deported for the govt not liking his public opinions. That's it.
I feel like you should quote that, hey? Because that’s word for word what Avi or Rukshan said, no..?
I copy pasted Avi’s tweet and linked to what I assume is his story.
Avi Yemeni is the best journalist in Australia
Yeah I got that, I just feel the attribution is kind of missing in the comment… 🤷🏻♂️
Because right now it looks like you just wrote that off the top off your head, lol!
Our media fucking HATE him. So yep, he’s clearly doing something right.
But then how could they virtue signal to the world?
Serbia's PM/President should be calling the Australian ambassador and grilling him over the subject followed swiftly by declaring the entire embassy staff persona-non-grata and closing the embassy. Do it with Serbian military hauling them away to be deported televised to the world.
New based attractive female hero amongst all this: Bojana Novakovic, an actress (I think she has done some modelling, too, by the looks) who is, you guessed it, Serbian-Australian…
Her Twitter is goin orfff! 👌🏻
Go get ‘em, babe.
Oh... phew... for a moment I thought the allies had destroyed and beaten Nazism and their allies in 1945.
I don’t think any of it ever really went away, honestly…
There’s always been pockets of this nasty, autocratic bullshit (generally Latin America, Africa and the Middle East) - it’s just that in places like Australia it sort of just bubbled under the surface, or hid itself under a cloak/veil of “wholeness”, exactly as this current regime does…
See, this is the thing: Novak literally grew up in a war zone. In his childhood, he saw unspeakable shit, which almost no Australians born in this country (excluding those who grew up in remote Aboriginal communities, arguably), and certainly no politician, would ever have seen, or will ever see. That is the problem.
I’ve also come to the realization, this last week, that Australia just isn’t a “real”, functioning country, in the sense that, say, the US, or fucking Mexico, is…
We never fought for our independence. We never really drafted a proper, working constitution based on “protecting liberty”, or “the inalienable rights of the people”, or anything like that. No “amendments” to fall back upon. Uniquely, as a Western country, no “bill of rights”. No true “human rights charter”. And now we know, clearly, that we do not even have a truly independent court system…
The separation between the judiciary, the legislature and the executive? That fundamental tenet of parliamentary democracy? It is now apparent that does not hold. Here, in New Zealand, in Germany OR in France. It was all an illusion. Even in this supposed “stable” democracy.
We’re not a “free country”. We never were. We just lied to ourselves, and bullshitted to the rest of the world, claiming it.
We were never truly “invaded”. We never truly fought a hot war on home soil. Now we know exactly what sort of complacency, and contempt for the rule of law, that can breed…
Fuck Australia. Fuck this country. This should be a red line, a black day in the history of this bullshit facade of a “nation”.
I do not think history will look kindly upon today’s events, or the legal and human ramifications of the rhetoric which this court just signed off on.
All correct, the closest thing we have to ever having to defend our soil is some air raids in WW2, and a bunch of miners having a shootout with the Police in the goldfields, also something similar with rum tax.
Neither of them went anywhere.
I'm only familiar with Australian history and facts in passing, so thank you in shedding some light and explaining some of the stuff to me.
That is true, people who never experienced these hardships really tend to ignore or make bad choices that inevitably leads to that. The article said that Serbia will enact some diplomatic blowback against Australia. I fear it may not be big, nor will the Australian government care.
It is sad to see such a great country fall like that. I thought that a place that was used as a prison of sorts by England would understand the idea of freedom. But I guess I was wrong.
It is so very disturbing and disheartening to see what is happening there.
You know how Americans go on and on about the whole “greatest country in the world” thing..?
Imagine that, combined with the rhetoric of the “Shit Americans Say” subreddit, in order to differentiate Aus from the US (modern Australians really, really don’t like America. Americans? Fine. But America as a country? It’s the done thing, in “liberal” circles, to just… Endlessly shit all over America, and it’s obsession with “free-dumb”, in the words of my countrymen…).
Add to that toxic combination, a very, very strange dose of government-worship, and specific worship of the woke nanny state, in a way that I have never seen, in the northern hemisphere…
Even Jante countries aren’t quite this… Obsessed with “le state”, and “le government is right”, IMHO…
Only Australia, NZ, a few other Pacific countries, and, obviously, places like Argentina and maybe Chile, behave like this… It’s bizarre.
But yeah, I could go on, but just…
When you think of “Australia”, you’re seeing the image governments here want you to see. That’s why you’re surprised.
I, as someone who was born in and grew up here, saw this coming a mile off. If it wasn’t this, it would have been “terror” (which they still use as an excuse to intrude in our lives, of course), or domestic violence, or… “We have to reform society to prevent climate change, or combat racism!” There was always something coming. It’s just that this provided the perfect opportunity…
And unfortunately, I managed to find myself caught up in it.
Islands, man. There’s something about isolated, faraway islands that perhaps breeds this kind of shit. Combined with the prison colony heritage (which wokies seem determined to make us forget, btw), that you mention, you end up with a very, very weird state of play…
And then along comes Novak, and an insane government, both state and federal, decides to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Ooh, final thing: look up more of the rhetoric behind this decision. The “reasoning” the government gave. The powers that the minister has, here, and that the court signed off on.
That is what scares me, and that is what should worry you, too.
This is not really about Novak. It could’ve been anyone.
This is about a government that is treating unvaccinated people, including me, as “extremists”, increasingly akin to literal terrorists, and what happens to terrorists, you may ask..?
Scary times, man. It really is. 😣
Remember though there are quite a lot of people that do like America, heaps of them in Melbourn and Sydeny, the all want to emulate places like California and New York though. Sad people IMHO.
Governments around the world have been searching for the right forms of words to use in order to scare people into just giving up their civil liberties for about fifty years or so, I think. Turns out it was this.
I saw the reason, it is absurd. I feel that it will justify the reaction people will have against the government. That despite him following all the rules, it was still not enough. Maybe it will have the Streisand effect?
But I do think you are right, and what happens in Australia may inspire other people elsewhere and happen in other places too.
America is powerful, as in, whatever happens there is almost guaranteed to happen in other countries. Australia may not hold that "advantage", as only America has that power, but it does have enough power to affect others.
You were absolutely correct, based on what you said, this was coming, one way or the other :/
The socialist propaganda to hate America is rife everywhere.
What?
Islamofascist Muslims made communism. Not sure why he is calling you a Muslim tho
Best part is just how much Covid is in the country atm. As of 17th Jan 2022, number of active cases is 4.925% of the whole population, so close to 1 in 20 have covid atm. Someone coming into the country at this point will do fucking nothing.
Something stinks.
CCP approves