Counterpoint to all those arguing that EVs create dependency--I have solar panels. If/when I get an EV, I can charge it off grid, and even use the EV to power my house (see Ford F150 EV). That's true energy independence.
[I would never argue that EVs, with their current capacities, are good for everybody or even most people. I do think we're at a technological tipping point, and EVs are going to surge in the next couple of years.]
The F150 EV is guessed to have a battery capacity of 100-130 kWh. My personal max power generation is about 45 kWh per day. Average across the year is more like 25-30kWh, though it can be virtually zero. So yeah, it could be a week to charge a fully depleted battery.
Think about it like a large battery with wheels--fill up from from the grid, uses it sparingly in outages, recharge during the day, use at night, etc., you can get some substantial usage out of it.
The technology is only getting better in all aspects (battery capacity, charging, efficiencies, regenerative technologies, solar panel efficiencies, etc.). For the majority of residential users, ICE is dead man walking not due to anything governments are doing, but due to convenience and technological advances.
That's fairly impressive for home solar, but you need to take into acct the charging losses, so likely 2.5-3.2 days on your current output. CLOSER AROUND 4.8ish-6 on the average days. Teslas also need more Elec to charge to full, i dont know if your ford will be the same, but if so... add a 20th more on to that, maybe a bit more. I think the idea of that is pretty cool, being able to power our homes without having to have many draw on the power grid, but probably still years away from practicality. if you could double that output safely tho, youd be in a pretty sweet spot for drive regen. The recharge home idea is great, but again, losses make it impractical for more than emergencies (IMO), and your battery is now getting worn--- here comes the ford profits. But all technology is improving. We're seeing in race car tech the ability for nearly 50% efficiency engines. THats astounding. Current cars are somewhere around 23-30%. I havent been able to find hard figures for the model T, but I believe earlier cars were around 15% and lower. ice is more afforable, easier to work on, and quicker to produce, and they dont suck in states outside of california ;). If we can get 40-50% effic widely produced cars, we will handily be able to overcome the 'green' advantage of musks 'evs'. a comparison is that modern diesel is around 35-40%, so you can extrapolate the added fuel mpg compared to modern day ice with regular ignition. Battery capacity has been getting better for the last 20-30 years, I think youre a bit optimistic that there will be some massive advance in capacity anytime soon ;).
Counterpoint to all those arguing that EVs create dependency--I have solar panels. If/when I get an EV, I can charge it off grid, and even use the EV to power my house (see Ford F150 EV). That's true energy independence.
[I would never argue that EVs, with their current capacities, are good for everybody or even most people. I do think we're at a technological tipping point, and EVs are going to surge in the next couple of years.]
Heh, you 'can', but enjoy spending 2 weeks to get a day or two of ev time. power losses will make the house transferring very expensive, I bet.
The F150 EV is guessed to have a battery capacity of 100-130 kWh. My personal max power generation is about 45 kWh per day. Average across the year is more like 25-30kWh, though it can be virtually zero. So yeah, it could be a week to charge a fully depleted battery.
Think about it like a large battery with wheels--fill up from from the grid, uses it sparingly in outages, recharge during the day, use at night, etc., you can get some substantial usage out of it.
The technology is only getting better in all aspects (battery capacity, charging, efficiencies, regenerative technologies, solar panel efficiencies, etc.). For the majority of residential users, ICE is dead man walking not due to anything governments are doing, but due to convenience and technological advances.
That's fairly impressive for home solar, but you need to take into acct the charging losses, so likely 2.5-3.2 days on your current output. CLOSER AROUND 4.8ish-6 on the average days. Teslas also need more Elec to charge to full, i dont know if your ford will be the same, but if so... add a 20th more on to that, maybe a bit more. I think the idea of that is pretty cool, being able to power our homes without having to have many draw on the power grid, but probably still years away from practicality. if you could double that output safely tho, youd be in a pretty sweet spot for drive regen. The recharge home idea is great, but again, losses make it impractical for more than emergencies (IMO), and your battery is now getting worn--- here comes the ford profits. But all technology is improving. We're seeing in race car tech the ability for nearly 50% efficiency engines. THats astounding. Current cars are somewhere around 23-30%. I havent been able to find hard figures for the model T, but I believe earlier cars were around 15% and lower. ice is more afforable, easier to work on, and quicker to produce, and they dont suck in states outside of california ;). If we can get 40-50% effic widely produced cars, we will handily be able to overcome the 'green' advantage of musks 'evs'. a comparison is that modern diesel is around 35-40%, so you can extrapolate the added fuel mpg compared to modern day ice with regular ignition. Battery capacity has been getting better for the last 20-30 years, I think youre a bit optimistic that there will be some massive advance in capacity anytime soon ;).