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Intel to refuse to pay the unjabbed. (archive.md)
posted 3 years ago by TheImpossible1 3 years ago by TheImpossible1 +50 / -1
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– AntonioOfVenice 19 points 3 years ago +22 / -3

I hope this sort of thing leads people to reconsider free market fundamentalism.

These giant corporations are not your friend.

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– weezkitty 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

To have a real free market, we need to significantly weaken IP protections

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– Omikron 13 points 3 years ago +17 / -4

Remove all IP laws tbh. It would lead to a better outcome.

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– deleted 28 points 3 years ago +29 / -1
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– Assassin47 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

And it should obviously vary on the thing we're talking about. Copyrights, Trademarks, Patents, and Software Patents are entirely different things. General "IP" is a lawyer invention.

What I really want to see is the removal of IP as a protected asset that can be traded. I only want the original creator (a human, not a corporation) to get exclusivity for their work. They can license it to people/companies while alive, and MAYBE assign a beneficiary upon death that gets some temporary exclusive rights to it, but that's it.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Patent law doesn't necessarily prevent that scenario today. If you're a small company and a big company clones/steals your patented tech, they'll just drag the lawsuit on as long as possible in an attempt to bankrupt you.

Or some Chinese firm will do it, and you'll have to bank on Customs seizing the shipments of infringing product as they're imported. That's something big companies have trouble doing let alone small-timers.

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– Omikron -3 points 3 years ago +4 / -7

There is plenty of reason for invention. Make life better. That's the incentive. When money is the driver of incentive in society you're already starting from a complete wrong position. IP law actually stiffles invention and is far from fair. Just because I invented an idea 1 second faster than when you would have invented it (an exaggeration) doesn't mean I should get 10-15 years of a monopoly on it.

People will still invent things. Oh maybe they wouldn't invent mindless music and stupid tv shows and movies and other degenerate things but actual beneficial industrial innovation would still be invented because they improve productivity and efficiency. People would still make art and stories and some plays and movies etc... Because it's not about the money. I think you'd see less media but more quality media.

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– deleted 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0
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– TheImpossible1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

China gets excited

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– weezkitty 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

They already don't give a fuck about our IP laws. Its time to end the monopolies of the mega corporations.

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– Yashimata 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

China wasn't respecting them anyway. This would just give them some competition.

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– TheImpossible1 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

https://youtu.be/dMsRMcqQ6Is

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– TheImpossible1 [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

It's weird that Intel is full Feminine Way but not AMD.


I kind of agree, but in a true free market, wouldn't companies exist to hire the unjabbed for their talents?

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– deleted 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0
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– Assassin47 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Until ESG scores make all companies comply.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's weird that Intel is full Feminine Way but not AMD.

Siri, who is the CEO of AMD?

I kind of agree, but in a true free market, wouldn't companies exist to hire the unjabbed for their talents?

That will really depend. My broader point is that it's absurd that a company has anything at all to demand from its workers regarding their personal decisions.

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– TheImpossible1 [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

That was what I was getting at.

Well, in a truly free market, they could demand and people would just leave. Hell, even in this market, won't they just go work for Qualcomm or AMD?

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

That was what I was getting at.

I'm surprised that you think AMD doesn't. But there is an economic reason for it, if it is true. They probably can't afford to mistreat their employees as much as Intel, as Intel can just throw money at people, while AMD has its asabiyya.

Hell, even in this market, won't they just go work for Qualcomm or AMD?

The power of these companies is much greater than is yours. They can just team up and decide that they're going to do something, and there's nothing that you can do about it.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Is it bad that I have never heard of AMD, and do not know what it is..?? 🤔

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– TheImpossible1 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

AMD is the other company that sells computer parts.

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– MetalGearMk4 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Holy shit how have you never heard of amd

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not my area, apparently… 🤷🏻‍♂️

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

If you claim to know anything about PCs, yes. They are the main competitor to Intel for commodity x86 architecture processors and were the original developer of the 64-bit instruction set for the x86 architecture in the early 2000s.

Edit: at the time, Intel thought the x86 instruction set was obsolete, so its strategy was to migrate to 64-bit with a new instruction set called Itanium. However they had trouble gaining adoption, and with AMD releasing their 64-bit x86 processors that pretty much killed Itanium for anything but niche applications. Until Intel released their own 64-bit CPUs, AMD was the supplier for x86 processors if you were doing something that required a lot of memory.

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– bamboozler1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I… Understood some of that, I think.

Right.

This is rather out of my depth, I have to admit, haha…

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– bamboozler1 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I mean, it fundamentally IS NOT actually a “free market”, and never has been…

I’m no “capitalist fundamentalist”, but if you think that what currently exists is anything BUT crony capitalism/monopolies with a few extra steps, I have news for you, AoV…

Surely you remember “too big to fail”, right??!!

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I didn't say that what exists now is a perfect free market.

But I do see free market fanatics often argue that "business have the right to do X or Y to their employees". Here's where that gets you.

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– krzyzowiec 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What is a corporation again? Oh yeah it’s a legal entity created by the government specifically to reduce individual liability.

We’re never had a free market and probably never will.

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