posted ago by Antimediabullshit ago by Antimediabullshit +40 / -3

The right will just shrug their shoulders and maybe grumble a mean thing or two online and never speak again. The left wind up manipulating fully this way and feel they can get away with it and they are right they can as we let them!

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acp_k2win 31 points ago +31 / -0

The left played the long game and by taking over culture and education were in a position to indoctrinate GENERATIONS that any pushback against the left is immoral.

First the conditioning has to be broken before and meaningful resistance can be put forward.

The harder the left denies reality to advance their irrational utopianism the more likely it is that push is to introduce cognitive dissonance in anyone who isn't totally ideologically possessed.

But even if the conditioning is broken the left's institutional control makes any oppositional organization a difficult and personally risky prospect. It is perfectly legal for the left to organize and execute social and economic violence against their opposition and the other side has basically no defense.

It is fundamentally a problem of how good people defend against evil people. A good person won't preemptively strike, a good person doesn't engage in collective punishment, a good person doesn't cause any harm he can to someone just because that person is his enemy - only under circumstances of self defense.

The other side doesn't believe in any of that and sleeps soundly feeling justified in their action.

The sad reality is to win we have to become like them, to make sure our descendants get a chance to live so they can complain about the way we won.

Survive first, regain our humanity afterwards.

WeedleTLiar 6 points ago +6 / -0

I think you've nailed the problem, but I don't agree with your solution.

We do need to figure out how to fight, but just because we can't strike first doesn't mean that we can't strike.

We have definitively been Pearl Harboured. The radical left is firmly entrenched in all major cultural institutions and we're badly out of position. But they need to move fast now because they've shown their hand and their ideas are self-evidently insane. There's only a brief window where they can operate in the open while still maintaining credibility; they need to create a fully locked down state before people start turning on them.

One thing we have on our side is that they've made themselves huge targets. So when parents stand up and denounce school boards, or pull their kids out of school, that hurts them. You can attack youtube, facebook and twitter for allowing child abuse while censoring "misinformation". You can put money into businesses that aren't openly leftist. Any institution you can damage is already controlled by them, so don't hold back.

One of the biggest lies the left has put into our head is "tolerance". When we see someone complaining about a show on TV they don't like, we laugh at how they can't simply ignore it. Well, it's time for us to stop ignoring it. It's time to get shrill about every little fucking thing that we don't like; everything that is immoral, or disgusting, or designed to make us sick or weak. The politicians and media can't stand this pressure from both sides; they will be forced to either ignore both sides or collapse completely.

And, most importantly, get your shit together. Get healthy, get smart, get strong, and push back on all this shit. Your company having "diversity training"? No fucking thank you; if you force the issue, I quit. School teaching CRT? Not to my kids they're not. Pride parade downtown? There's no law against protesting degeneracy.

We need people who are against this, of which there are many, to simply stand the fuck up and state, publicly and in no uncertain terms, that they won't tolerate it. No freedom of speech for tyrants, no freedom of opinion for those who don't think, no freedom of religion for those that worship evil.

Jesus didn't simply leave the money changers to find another temple, he pointed his finger and kicked some ass.

Any of us can do this. The leftists are weak cowards who only win if we let them. The only reason we even need to strike now is because we've let them walk right into our halls and handed them a drink.

4gain4gain 11 points ago +11 / -0

We need people who are against this, of which there are many, to simply stand the fuck up and state, publicly and in no uncertain terms, that they won't tolerate it.

Lol. they will just shut you down because they don't care what you will and won't tolerate. They already find you intolerable for disagreeing with them.

acp_k2win 7 points ago +7 / -0

You can attack youtube, facebook and twitter for allowing child abuse while censoring "misinformation".

How does that inflict damage on them? What is the path from that action to victory? Has that ever worked in the past?

Antimediabullshit [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I forgot about that actually. It seems people overlook the Jesus money changer scenario and it seems he has forgot himself or we'd see spiritual kickback.

Antimediabullshit [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

This forum for example is full of what you described.

Homopratensis2 10 points ago +10 / -0

Because in the end liberals think that the ends justifies the means, while conservatives don't. Any time such groups come into conflict, the moral one will lose ultimately. The only solution is conversion of the left. Peaceful coexistence will always result in loss by conservatives.

ghostfox1_ 10 points ago +10 / -0

Because the right is largely cucked.

BillieEllish 9 points ago +10 / -1

What acp_k2win said but also "conservatism" as people know it is an artificial ideology designed to keep things from changing in any meaningful way. That combined with baby boomers having a skewed view of reality because they lived in one of the most prosperous times and them willing to sacrifice their posterity to keep their prosperity.

Also a lot of influential jewish academics have influenced "right wing" institutions and movements. "Both sides" support israel, a destruction of the american identity, and the destruction of white solidarity due to these academics' influences.

Look at how boomer conservatives will attack younger people in the party as "nazis" for trying to meaningfully reform it for the interests of younger generations. If you dont want endless wars, endless worship of a narcissistic generation, the ladder kicked out, or a comfortable suicide, you are a nazi and all discussion becomes impossible. The biggest obstacles to real reforms are the republican party, baby boomer conservatives, and strange pro jewish people who betray the US while claiming to be liberal or conservative.

Antimediabullshit [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most of the web is nothing but boomer conservatives whom call you a 'Nazi' and all debate has ceased at that point once they don't like one of the things you mention on reform.

alucard13mmfmj 5 points ago +5 / -0

Same way the taliban won.. they play the long game and willing to suicide themselves to achieve objectives. They did what it took to win.

Steampunk_Moustache 4 points ago +4 / -0

Because the left controls the media and the media spends every second of every day telling the right to be ashamed of their own thoughts and to disbelieve their lying eyes.

Antimediabullshit [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Rush Limbaugh was the 'voice' and never caved in. His bite was worse then his bark and kept them in check for so long until he got too old and died. He and his millions of followers called out on the bull shit and now there is no voice. The left can LITERALLY do what they want unless the population stands up on their own. I wonder if this is God's way of telling us to stop relying on someone and to stand our ground?

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Antimediabullshit [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Rush Limbaugh used to be (gasp) one of them! He saw how bad the party got and formed his own radio show. You can view his transcripts for free online word to word including any errors.

Antimediabullshit [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Makes Rush Limbaugh right that there aren't any real moderates. Just phony ones they used to call all the talk radio shows including him on open line days and got themselves banned for being abusive. They would often call back in disguise and be called out right in the open and often their quotes played back. They now pollute the web where they control access.

blyat56 3 points ago +3 / -0

Desire to get by and be left alone will always lose out to people whose deepest desire is to dominate others.

MargarineMongoose 3 points ago +3 / -0

"We want to be left alone" only works if backed by a credible threat of overwhelming violence. People go on and on about the Non Agression Principle, but no one ever seems to confront the reality that once it is violated it requires one to retaliate with overwhelming force.

"Hey I told you not to throw your dirty socks in my kitchen sink again and you didn't listen, so now I'm going to kill you and everyone you've ever known and loved and then skin your dog alive" is the correct level of hostility and disproportionate response that is needed for the NAP to function.

I'd like to see that shift and there be more of an acceptance of the moral acceptability of being overtly hostile towards those who are enemies.

Antimediabullshit [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The right these days just say 'Please don't throw them in my sink again' over and over to the pleading point where eventually if the liberal is smart enough he or she can exploit something and before you can say 'Bob's your uncle' you owe lots of personal debt to that person and can't be broken out of it except thru death!

Then you wonder why on Court Cam some people become absolute monsters or kill with little to no remorse and lose all touch of humanity.

dnile1000bc 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't know whether you noticed, but the majority of the left's supporters are women (however you define this). The right's basic ideology is gynocentric.

When your basic tenants are based around how women are wonderful and they must be protected there is no defence when women start demanding extra rights.

PostyMcGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

Leftists are missing certain traits, like in in group preference, and are more concerned with equality, overly so. Where as conservative people aren't missing traits like these, nor overly favor certain ones. So, Conservatives can compromise, Leftists can't. A conservative compromises, again and again, despite getting nothing in return, because it's just how they are, while the Leftist keeps getting what they want by appealing to the conservatives nature, or by demanding it at this point. And since they own most of the institutions, media, government, etc. They can demand, and conservatives know they're overwhelmed and it feels futile so don't put up as much of a fight. Basically conservatives are limited by a manipulation of their morals. If they can look past and see it as a manipulation though, they can use those morals to continue pushing for what's right. but mostly they don't realize what's going on, get frustrated and that cycle continues.

Antimediabullshit [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

So the liberals can exploit the 'Chronic Hero Syndrome' effect? https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChronicHeroSyndrome

The Conservatives fall for it each time then like this they lose alignment with their true selves: "While certainly admirable, this may have a few negative side-effects on the hero and those around them. Such heroes could wear themselves out in their attempts to help everyone or become distraught and blame themselves for the one time that they're unable to save the day. Spending so much time and effort saving everyone else can also put a strain on the hero's personal or dating life. A particularly bad case of this may develop into a full-blown Martyr Without a Cause. Maybe they simply like being in the line of danger."

HypJii 1 point ago +2 / -1

because my words are literally terorrism to them and i get banned every time i say something

Antimediabullshit [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same. I call out things as they are I don't sugar coat it nor sprinkle candy on mud.