Yes women have 'inferior' traits but amazingly men do too.
My knee-jerk reaction to OP was much the same as yours, but this specific claim got me thinking: exactly what superior traits do women possess?
Emotional IQ? But the greatest poets, musicians, and artists in history are men.
Social aptitude? But the greatest leaders and organisers in history are men.
Cooking? The greatest chefs are men.
Fashion? The greatest designers are (gay) men.
Child rearing? Single mother households are a plague on society.
Peaceful rule? The greatest pacifist activists in history are men.
Seems to me that every space dominated by women has been defaulted to them. When men choose to participate in those spaces, men quickly dominate.
The two things women do better:
Birth children
Use their sexuality to manipulate men
These also happen to be the only two things (I can think of) that men literally cannot do.
I believe that birthing children is so obviously important that it equals (and perhaps even trumps) everything men can do. But when I really sit and think about it, that's the long and short of what "women are best at".
You should become a political consultant, you spin everything to fit your monomaniacal worldview.
But out of curiosity, do you have any evidence that women are more likely to lie on anonymous surveys. Other than "women are bad and trying to kill me", that is.
Women are better at putting up with shit and just working. It's really amazing how badly women can be treated and they just keep plugging along.
Look at the middle east. And women defend their servitude. Look at societies throughout history where men would rebel and fight and die, women just tolerate whatever shitty conditions and keep working.
They are really good at just accepting their lot in life and plugging along.
Well, Women live longer, even if adjust for less risk taking. They are less susceptible to a number of diseases. It possibly has something to do with the importance of grandmothering (it’s much easier to handle children if grandma is still around)
You are completely blinded by your male perspective on this one, and you're also forgetting that men occupy both ends of the bell curve.
One very important thing you have to understand is men are always about "works" because those works are status signifies... to women. It's part of male psychology. Successful males will always generate a status signal.
Where you're wrong:
Emotional IQ: But the greatest poets, musicians, and artists in history are men.
Those have nothing to do with one another. EQ is about managing social-emotional networks by understanding the psychological perceptions of all participants, and fostering an emotionally positive environment by doing so. Women are better than men at it.
Social aptitude? But the greatest leaders and organizers in history are men.
This is a huge one you're misunderstanding. Social aptitude has nothing to do with organizing. The kind of leadership you're thinking of is based on Charisma... which is absolutely a male trait, but that's not what Social Aptitude is. It's about forming, navigating, cultivating, and maintaining social networks. Women are superb at this. Men rarely even recognize the need for one. It's a night and day difference. This is one of the reasons why women remember other people's anniversary dates. They are aware of the socio-emotional impact of these dates and their influence on relationships within the social network that they've woven.
Child rearing? Single mother households are a plague on society.
Single parent households are bad generally. Single mothers are just particularly bad. Single father households might bring the kid up physically to not be a criminal because they won't be fragile, low-time preference, undisciplined nonsense. Instead they will be effectively autistic and not capable of strong socialization skills. They'll get a job. But they won't raise a family, their degeneracy and social collapse will increase with time as they continue to fail to develop any kind of real social safety net.
Put it like this: do you know what happens to an infant without a mother prior to a few centuries ago? It fucking dies because it can't eat. Dad doesn't have mammary glans. Men literally aren't fit to raise infants. They are still needed to raise children into adults, but you need both parents to raise a kid.
Now, here's where you are just missing the point:
Cooking? The greatest chefs are men.
You're misunderstanding the role. Men shouldn't be cooking in the family. The most successful anything are men because of their performance in the bell-curve. Chefs provide income for their families, and the food is a status symbol of their competency. That's the point.
Women are supposed to be cooking so that they can prepare men to use all available nutrients and caloric intake to get the things that the woman needs to continue building the family and community at home. Women help men manage energy supplies through cooking. Cooking also helps feed the children because it gives them vital food that their digestive system might not be able to process yet.
Peaceful rule? The greatest pacifist activists in history are men.
This is just a feminist trope. Women will murder the shit out of each other.
Fashion? The greatest designers are (gay) men.
Again, you're looking at a form a status signaling. The primary purpose of fashion is to convey the value of women to men in a way that men can easily decipher.
I think you're confusing "women often do this thing" with "women are better at this thing". Women seem to be very good at things that men either don't value or don't prioritize. This is not the same thing as superiority in those tasks.
I think you're still missing the point about what women are and how they fit into relationships with men. Men are always going to be at the ends of the bell curve for both absolute best and worst. Women become a kind of moderating force for men. Women do not have to be the best in all of society, that is a strive for status that men have to get women. Women simply have to be the animus of their particular man. They need to complement and supplement what he is capable of.
Social aptitude? But the greatest leaders and organisers in history are men.
The greatest leaders would not have been that if they had empathy, which is what women have more of. And which, unfortunately, makes them easier to manipulate in our day and age.
Child rearing? Single mother households are a plague on society.
But women have raised kids throughout history, and done that quite well.
But when I really sit and think about it, that's the long and short of what "women are best at".
You're looking at 'the best' though. And given the extreme IQ distributions of men, 'the best' of anything will likely be men. But that does not mean that women, on average, cannot be better at something even when 'the best' are still men. And judging people by averages is also bad, because then we would have to conclude that Thomas Sowell is an idiot, because blacks, on average, are less interested in learning.
Regardless, if we're going to argue that there are differences between the sexes, because it is true, you can lace it with a bit of sugar to sweeten the pill, which would otherwise be indigestible. People don't like to hear that they are inferior because of their biology, even if it's true. Which I don't think your argument claims or shows, but it will certainly sound like it to anyone who is on that side of it.
Why does everyone mistake empathy with sympathy. I have yet to meet an empathetic woman in my entire life, they cannot perceive emotions they don’t have. Women are sympathetic, this is why they have cry circles in Congress. Pity parties are not empathetic, stoicism is empathetic, learning to understand emotions and control them are empathy.
The difference between empathy and sympathy was one of the first concepts they tried to drill into us during the first week of med school (though admittedly, I still have a hard time putting the concept into words).
I would describe the difference as it's important for a doctor to have empathy for patients - to put be able to put themselves in a patient's shoes to appreciate emotions, motivations, reactions that an average person would experience in a situation, even if you have never experienced it yourself.
But it's still their disease, not yours. And you still have to get shit done. So a doctor should strive to be empathetic (to appreciate and understand) but not sympathetic (to commiserate) because you have shit you have to do and can't go down the rabbit hole with them.
A surgeon has to make incisions and cause their patient pain. A pediatrician has to give childhood vaccines to a screaming infant. A geriatrician has to take the driver's license away from their demented senior. A psychiatrist has to lock up the paranoid schizophrenic.
But women have raised kids throughout history, and done that quite well.
You've missed the point.
Yes, women have successfully raised children throughout history, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were "better at it" than men. It might simply mean that women defaulted to domestic labor because they were not as suited for the more dangerous and difficult taaks of hunting, building, fighting, etc.
Here's a modern corollary: in tech industries, women are massively overrepresented in HR and community management. Is this because women are better in these departments? Or is it because tech companies are staring down the barrel of socially and legally enforced gender quotas, and the aforementioned positions are the only places you can stash large numbers of female employees? Are women better at every indoor job with air conditioning and a zero percent chance of death?
My knee-jerk reaction to OP was much the same as yours, but this specific claim got me thinking: exactly what superior traits do women possess?
Emotional IQ? But the greatest poets, musicians, and artists in history are men.
Social aptitude? But the greatest leaders and organisers in history are men.
Cooking? The greatest chefs are men.
Fashion? The greatest designers are (gay) men.
Child rearing? Single mother households are a plague on society.
Peaceful rule? The greatest pacifist activists in history are men.
Seems to me that every space dominated by women has been defaulted to them. When men choose to participate in those spaces, men quickly dominate.
The two things women do better:
Birth children
Use their sexuality to manipulate men
These also happen to be the only two things (I can think of) that men literally cannot do.
I believe that birthing children is so obviously important that it equals (and perhaps even trumps) everything men can do. But when I really sit and think about it, that's the long and short of what "women are best at".
You forgot treachery. Nobody's better at backstabbing.
I thought men committed more adultery.
Men admit to it more.
You should become a political consultant, you spin everything to fit your monomaniacal worldview.
But out of curiosity, do you have any evidence that women are more likely to lie on anonymous surveys. Other than "women are bad and trying to kill me", that is.
With that said, there isn't enough data on single father households, since judges overwhelmingly award children to the mothers.
Women are better at putting up with shit and just working. It's really amazing how badly women can be treated and they just keep plugging along.
Look at the middle east. And women defend their servitude. Look at societies throughout history where men would rebel and fight and die, women just tolerate whatever shitty conditions and keep working.
They are really good at just accepting their lot in life and plugging along.
Well, Women live longer, even if adjust for less risk taking. They are less susceptible to a number of diseases. It possibly has something to do with the importance of grandmothering (it’s much easier to handle children if grandma is still around)
That's an interesting one.
You are completely blinded by your male perspective on this one, and you're also forgetting that men occupy both ends of the bell curve.
One very important thing you have to understand is men are always about "works" because those works are status signifies... to women. It's part of male psychology. Successful males will always generate a status signal.
Where you're wrong:
Those have nothing to do with one another. EQ is about managing social-emotional networks by understanding the psychological perceptions of all participants, and fostering an emotionally positive environment by doing so. Women are better than men at it.
This is a huge one you're misunderstanding. Social aptitude has nothing to do with organizing. The kind of leadership you're thinking of is based on Charisma... which is absolutely a male trait, but that's not what Social Aptitude is. It's about forming, navigating, cultivating, and maintaining social networks. Women are superb at this. Men rarely even recognize the need for one. It's a night and day difference. This is one of the reasons why women remember other people's anniversary dates. They are aware of the socio-emotional impact of these dates and their influence on relationships within the social network that they've woven.
Single parent households are bad generally. Single mothers are just particularly bad. Single father households might bring the kid up physically to not be a criminal because they won't be fragile, low-time preference, undisciplined nonsense. Instead they will be effectively autistic and not capable of strong socialization skills. They'll get a job. But they won't raise a family, their degeneracy and social collapse will increase with time as they continue to fail to develop any kind of real social safety net.
Put it like this: do you know what happens to an infant without a mother prior to a few centuries ago? It fucking dies because it can't eat. Dad doesn't have mammary glans. Men literally aren't fit to raise infants. They are still needed to raise children into adults, but you need both parents to raise a kid.
Now, here's where you are just missing the point:
You're misunderstanding the role. Men shouldn't be cooking in the family. The most successful anything are men because of their performance in the bell-curve. Chefs provide income for their families, and the food is a status symbol of their competency. That's the point.
Women are supposed to be cooking so that they can prepare men to use all available nutrients and caloric intake to get the things that the woman needs to continue building the family and community at home. Women help men manage energy supplies through cooking. Cooking also helps feed the children because it gives them vital food that their digestive system might not be able to process yet.
This is just a feminist trope. Women will murder the shit out of each other.
Again, you're looking at a form a status signaling. The primary purpose of fashion is to convey the value of women to men in a way that men can easily decipher.
I think you're confusing "women often do this thing" with "women are better at this thing". Women seem to be very good at things that men either don't value or don't prioritize. This is not the same thing as superiority in those tasks.
I think you're still missing the point about what women are and how they fit into relationships with men. Men are always going to be at the ends of the bell curve for both absolute best and worst. Women become a kind of moderating force for men. Women do not have to be the best in all of society, that is a strive for status that men have to get women. Women simply have to be the animus of their particular man. They need to complement and supplement what he is capable of.
The greatest leaders would not have been that if they had empathy, which is what women have more of. And which, unfortunately, makes them easier to manipulate in our day and age.
But women have raised kids throughout history, and done that quite well.
You're looking at 'the best' though. And given the extreme IQ distributions of men, 'the best' of anything will likely be men. But that does not mean that women, on average, cannot be better at something even when 'the best' are still men. And judging people by averages is also bad, because then we would have to conclude that Thomas Sowell is an idiot, because blacks, on average, are less interested in learning.
Regardless, if we're going to argue that there are differences between the sexes, because it is true, you can lace it with a bit of sugar to sweeten the pill, which would otherwise be indigestible. People don't like to hear that they are inferior because of their biology, even if it's true. Which I don't think your argument claims or shows, but it will certainly sound like it to anyone who is on that side of it.
Why does everyone mistake empathy with sympathy. I have yet to meet an empathetic woman in my entire life, they cannot perceive emotions they don’t have. Women are sympathetic, this is why they have cry circles in Congress. Pity parties are not empathetic, stoicism is empathetic, learning to understand emotions and control them are empathy.
The difference between empathy and sympathy was one of the first concepts they tried to drill into us during the first week of med school (though admittedly, I still have a hard time putting the concept into words).
I would describe the difference as it's important for a doctor to have empathy for patients - to put be able to put themselves in a patient's shoes to appreciate emotions, motivations, reactions that an average person would experience in a situation, even if you have never experienced it yourself.
But it's still their disease, not yours. And you still have to get shit done. So a doctor should strive to be empathetic (to appreciate and understand) but not sympathetic (to commiserate) because you have shit you have to do and can't go down the rabbit hole with them.
A surgeon has to make incisions and cause their patient pain. A pediatrician has to give childhood vaccines to a screaming infant. A geriatrician has to take the driver's license away from their demented senior. A psychiatrist has to lock up the paranoid schizophrenic.
I always thought this scene from Scrubs illustrated the concept
You've missed the point.
Yes, women have successfully raised children throughout history, but that doesn't necessarily mean they were "better at it" than men. It might simply mean that women defaulted to domestic labor because they were not as suited for the more dangerous and difficult taaks of hunting, building, fighting, etc.
Here's a modern corollary: in tech industries, women are massively overrepresented in HR and community management. Is this because women are better in these departments? Or is it because tech companies are staring down the barrel of socially and legally enforced gender quotas, and the aforementioned positions are the only places you can stash large numbers of female employees? Are women better at every indoor job with air conditioning and a zero percent chance of death?