Your link took me to the OP / top of that post. Quit pretending that's incompetence on my part! I never had to be petty and claim you don't know how to insert a link. I don't care if you had to edit it to get it to work or if it was a software glitch because I'm not a petty jerk like you. Your point was Perun filled in for 3 days which is NOT what a normal moderator does. My point stands; while he's listed as a moderator everywhere he doesn't do any moderating, he serves more in a capacity between mods and admin to keep the site running. That doesn't need a 3 page explanation to be hairsplirtingly accurate, it's generally true. .
Get over your OCD and pay attention to what's actually said
I don't care if you had to edit it to get it to work or if it was a software glitch because I'm not a petty jerk
So to a non working link your reply is
Your link only goes to OP here. They created a shithole for your shit. How are you still complaining?
Do you wish to learn? Cause the wonders of tech of this site means that I can check were the link went to from the original message. Due to your tech illiteracy I will provide a image and hope it helps to you to see.
In the same tone pointing out the place so that you could get the information which you could not see. That information was never responded to, even tough you could have anytime brought up the same argument, in which I would have dumped more and more information of the actions of this one perun. But information is not something you wanted, To me it seems you had labeled me as an enemy combatant from the start.
Now onto the next part:
You want more points of reference in which he moderates? Where even the question however benign it is removed by himself? The pm with gaming community in which they state that peruns actions will be addressed (most likely intercepted by himself) Or do you want the data where he discuss with the ipo people of handing gaming over cause it does not matter anyway?
Also you have still not read my argument in full have you? The matter of having a "liaison" (More like a super admin for there were no asking the gaming mods about it nor even C, the dev account) in which will remove and edit without any due cooperation with the original moderators or community leads to there being no possible method of having any trust in their management since he can and have proven at any moment hand over the keys to whomever he want and this "ability" is not used competently nor for any good. On win forum he is your King and you have sworn fealty to him with only C being above.
On win forum he is your King and you have sworn fealty to him with only C being above
This is the essence of your point, and all I addressed.
Apparently it's a shock to you that somebody owns this site. That's not a king, it's mostly one person with tremendous foresight who developed the site to begin with in conjunction with a team that's mostly abandoned him. He also pays to keep the site running and you'll notice there are no ads.. He has to delegate responsibility especially as this site accommodates more groups. Whoever this Perun character is, he's been placed in a position unlike other mods. Want to call him a super mod? That doesn't fit but whatever.
He had to handle IP2's shit, and for 3 days that negatively impacted gaming. General remains ruined, many months later. You're a whiny little bitch when you should be grateful for what we do have here, that is entirely free to us. Is it perfect? Nobody has ever claimed so. Our main dev is currently working his ass off to vastly improve the whole site. I look forward to seeing it, as some maintenance has ben ignored to facilitate the transition.
As always your main point is that to even question is to whine and we all shall be grateful to your mercy. For he is divine and thus your are divine and your work providing a forum and pruning it is. You really are an uber faggot, why did you ever leave reddit?
I leave you with this copy past for fun :D
Yikes, have a seat fuckboi.
As an internet janitor, let me tell you something:
It's literally my job to grow this community. I'm personally responsible for everything that is thought and said within it, and I need to cultivate it like Banzai tree garden.
I need to spend my fucking life delicately pruning, snipping, and moving the tree so I can get it just the way I like it, which is how I know that it's a good community. On top of all of that, I do this FOR FREE. That's how I know I'm a good person.
There's a lot of trouble makers out there who try to upset the delicate balance of all the work I put in. I don't know if you know this, but moderators are really powerful, and I'm pretty important. I'm not going to let some nobody interfere with my grand project! <
I wanted to respond to the quote here. Mods on .win don't create the ... anything. YOU do! Mods simply keep things within bounds that YOU choose. It's impossible to create rules that cover everything. Judgment will always be required. We should be periodically asking what priorities, criteria, etc people want.
Implementing that is a compromise, meaning nobody ever gets what they want. Part of making this work is making mod logs public so people can see if one mod is off base. All (or at least most) mods should be replaced periodically to avoid burnout and increase participation, IMHO.
Mods can steer a .win down the middle of its stated purpose by stickying posts. Hopefully that's the biggest part of the duty and there aren't many reports.
This is an impromptu representation of the attitude .win mods should have. It's 180 degrees opposite from your quote, which sounds like Reddit
I know nothing about KIA or gaming .wins. Maybe you can take something here and inject it into the community and do some good? Also, modmail. I really don't understand how trust even enters into it except:.
doxxing. Actual, identify you IRL lose your job burn down your house doxxing, not the vague use of it I have seen from some mods.
stealing your work. I think the user agreement says anything you submit becomes property of .win or something like that but if you were presenting code and somebody took credit for your work and took your job yeah that would suck.
As always your main point is that to even question is to whine
Not at all!
But it begins and ends with 3 days, right? I addressed the question of why. And added the observation that IP2 has been problematic for .win; maybe not from day 1 but in 2 weeks. Nobody else has caused problems like them and you were affected. Were you affected for more than 3 days? I mean yes you had tons of their crap in view until that was pushed out of view by new content, but did they actually leave for their new shithole after the 3 days?
Your link took me to the OP / top of that post. Quit pretending that's incompetence on my part! I never had to be petty and claim you don't know how to insert a link. I don't care if you had to edit it to get it to work or if it was a software glitch because I'm not a petty jerk like you. Your point was Perun filled in for 3 days which is NOT what a normal moderator does. My point stands; while he's listed as a moderator everywhere he doesn't do any moderating, he serves more in a capacity between mods and admin to keep the site running. That doesn't need a 3 page explanation to be hairsplirtingly accurate, it's generally true. .
Get over your OCD and pay attention to what's actually said
So to a non working link your reply is
Do you wish to learn? Cause the wonders of tech of this site means that I can check were the link went to from the original message. Due to your tech illiteracy I will provide a image and hope it helps to you to see.
https://files.catbox.moe/sgshid.png
Also, In response to your saying it did not work I posted
In the same tone pointing out the place so that you could get the information which you could not see. That information was never responded to, even tough you could have anytime brought up the same argument, in which I would have dumped more and more information of the actions of this one perun. But information is not something you wanted, To me it seems you had labeled me as an enemy combatant from the start.
Now onto the next part:
You want more points of reference in which he moderates? Where even the question however benign it is removed by himself? The pm with gaming community in which they state that peruns actions will be addressed (most likely intercepted by himself) Or do you want the data where he discuss with the ipo people of handing gaming over cause it does not matter anyway?
Also you have still not read my argument in full have you? The matter of having a "liaison" (More like a super admin for there were no asking the gaming mods about it nor even C, the dev account) in which will remove and edit without any due cooperation with the original moderators or community leads to there being no possible method of having any trust in their management since he can and have proven at any moment hand over the keys to whomever he want and this "ability" is not used competently nor for any good. On win forum he is your King and you have sworn fealty to him with only C being above.
This is the essence of your point, and all I addressed.
Apparently it's a shock to you that somebody owns this site. That's not a king, it's mostly one person with tremendous foresight who developed the site to begin with in conjunction with a team that's mostly abandoned him. He also pays to keep the site running and you'll notice there are no ads.. He has to delegate responsibility especially as this site accommodates more groups. Whoever this Perun character is, he's been placed in a position unlike other mods. Want to call him a super mod? That doesn't fit but whatever.
He had to handle IP2's shit, and for 3 days that negatively impacted gaming. General remains ruined, many months later. You're a whiny little bitch when you should be grateful for what we do have here, that is entirely free to us. Is it perfect? Nobody has ever claimed so. Our main dev is currently working his ass off to vastly improve the whole site. I look forward to seeing it, as some maintenance has ben ignored to facilitate the transition.
As always your main point is that to even question is to whine and we all shall be grateful to your mercy. For he is divine and thus your are divine and your work providing a forum and pruning it is. You really are an uber faggot, why did you ever leave reddit?
I leave you with this copy past for fun :D
I wanted to respond to the quote here. Mods on .win don't create the ... anything. YOU do! Mods simply keep things within bounds that YOU choose. It's impossible to create rules that cover everything. Judgment will always be required. We should be periodically asking what priorities, criteria, etc people want.
Implementing that is a compromise, meaning nobody ever gets what they want. Part of making this work is making mod logs public so people can see if one mod is off base. All (or at least most) mods should be replaced periodically to avoid burnout and increase participation, IMHO.
Mods can steer a .win down the middle of its stated purpose by stickying posts. Hopefully that's the biggest part of the duty and there aren't many reports.
This is an impromptu representation of the attitude .win mods should have. It's 180 degrees opposite from your quote, which sounds like Reddit
I know nothing about KIA or gaming .wins. Maybe you can take something here and inject it into the community and do some good? Also, modmail. I really don't understand how trust even enters into it except:.
doxxing. Actual, identify you IRL lose your job burn down your house doxxing, not the vague use of it I have seen from some mods.
stealing your work. I think the user agreement says anything you submit becomes property of .win or something like that but if you were presenting code and somebody took credit for your work and took your job yeah that would suck.
Not at all!
But it begins and ends with 3 days, right? I addressed the question of why. And added the observation that IP2 has been problematic for .win; maybe not from day 1 but in 2 weeks. Nobody else has caused problems like them and you were affected. Were you affected for more than 3 days? I mean yes you had tons of their crap in view until that was pushed out of view by new content, but did they actually leave for their new shithole after the 3 days?