Yeah, that's the problem I run into. I've literally been in the position where I would tell someone that even "the science" says masks only reduce cases by 1.8% and they'll call me ignorant and send me an article that cites the exact study I was referencing. It's fun that they okey dokey themselves but when they realize it they fall back to "well it saves one life" and pretend it's the same as their previous argument that the only reason the pandemic is still going on is because of antimaskers.