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Right on cue, the Socialist Party is here to tell us that Cuba doesn't have real communism (archive.is)
posted 4 years ago by UnsubtleAardvark 4 years ago by UnsubtleAardvark +107 / -0
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– ApexVeritas 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Holy shit, you're actually one of those "it wasn't real communism" people, trying to hide it under a facade of intellectual arguments that are, quite simply, wrong.

Communism always fails because to get to it's "utopia" requires absolute government control, to implement the "will of the people", take control of the private sector, and enact communism, which always leads to corruption (attracting those who would use the power for their own ends), inefficiency, misery, and death, because the power given to government to enact the will of the people is quickly perverted to enact the will of those in power, and often to the detriment of the people. Capitalism has the same failing to a lesser degree, because over time certain companies (capital) becomes concentrated, meaning those companies and the people in charge of them wield more power, often to the detriment of the company, the workers, and the customers. The big difference is that companies exert far less power than governments, meaning the negative effects are much less severe than concentrated governmental power, due to people's ability to leave a company or shop elsewhere, which they don't have the option to do under total despotic centralized control of government, even when the government/country pretends to call itself "communist".

Also note, that none of this is done in a vacuum. Companies and government often become corrupt together, working in tandem to accumulate more power. This is exactly what's happening in the U.S., and many other countries, currently. It's not communism, but it's following the same process toward centralized authority, and will lead to the same thing.

The lesson here is that concentration of power is dangerous, thus governments, corporations, and society in general should be set up to avoid or limit the pitfalls.

Another lesson to explain the failings of communism, socialism, and otherwise powerful centralized government, is that it's based on altruism of the people, which is a self destructive philosophy. Constructive selfishness is the most stable form of being for an individual, group, or country. I'd explain why, but this is already long, and would open a bigger can of worms than this reply deserves.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– ApexVeritas 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sounds a bit like a No True Scotsman logical fallacy being made over and over and over again. One of the definitions of insanity: trying to same thing over and over again expecting different results. How these idiots can see numerously historically repeated results from the same experiment and refuse to accept the results as "not real Communism" is beyond me. It's tantamount to claiming 2+2=5, and being perpetually baffled that every time it's added together it equals 4, claiming "it wasn't real addition". The problem is these morons are dragging everyone around them to hell with them, willingly sacrificing millions of people at the alter of their insanity and refusal to accept reality, that every time this shit is tried, it fails horrifically.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

No, he's either a Fascist or a National Socialist, I forget which.

So by definition, he always no other choice but to defend Socialism from too much genuine criticism because it would hurt his version. He also needs to promote the Socialist definition of Capitalism and Liberalism so he can steer people away from human liberty, and back towards his primary objectives.

Let that be 2 lessons to you:

  • Fascism and National Socialism are Leftist Ideologies
  • Birds of a feather flock together, and so do Fascist pigs and Communist swine.
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– ApexVeritas 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ah okay. Thanks for the heads up.

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– deleted 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

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