This came to mind reading the thread about Chris Avellone's metoo response.
His accuser: https://miro.medium.com/max/1310/1*FFIXCEmICYAr1-XjH5GlLw.png
8 years ago, she superficially seems fairly normal, kind of cute. Today her twitter has BLM fists, WEARAMASK, pronouns in bio, danger hair, anti-fascist, anti-racist, resists, yadda yadda. You name it, she's got it. Her profile pic is deliberately a picture that makes her look like rabidly angry harridan. (She's also protected her tweets as of today.)
We all know the SJW movement is female driven. I think even SJWs admit that.
What happened to this girl in the last 8 years? Has she realized that society sucks? That her own life sucks? Her obsession with cons, consumerism, and then social justice has left her feeling empty?
Isn't that basically the MGTOW/Incel position? Society and my life sucks, and I'm checking out.
So... are SJWs basically the equivalent of MGTOW and Incels? Are SJWs the female expression of "my life sucks and society sucks and I don't know what to do about it."?
I guess the difference would be that many parts of MGTOW are ostensibly about internal self-improvement, while SJWs' focus is entirely external -- "improving" society.
Side note: "Femcel" is an impossible thing. For any female who wants to get some, there is a male thirsty enough to do it
No, there's no such thing. MGTOW is a response to what women are, and what they do to innocent people.
These people are just fucking sadists. They hold the mask for a while to get into people's trust, then drop it hard and go all out attack.
I'm not a fan of anyone who chooses to identify as incel -- MGTOW I have no problem with, and I think many people can benefit from the emphasis on self improvement. I've been rightly corrected that incel != MGTOW, and there's not much of an overlap.
I think it's more than that too. It's performative justice. Generally, every additional word you have to add to describe something makes it less important and less real. Social justice? I care about JUSTICE. Racial equity? What's wrong with EQUITY.
Equity is a communist lie. Equality is a lie. These are values of communists and losers at the game of life.
So let's say "you" are genuinely an incel -- meaning you seriously can't get laid, for whatever reason.
Why make that your defining characteristic? Why spend your life obsessing over that fact? Move on. Hell, hire a prostitute. It seems to me as if incels are putting pussy on a pedestal.
I'm not deep into MGTOW. TRP people always seemed to talk about a difference in how women are and what society allows. That is, traditional Western society (Christianity) and traditional cultures literally everywhere in the world (Muslim, Buddhist, Chinese, African tribal -- anywhere) laid out strict gender-based roles, duties, and obligations. Society tried to control sexual promiscuity (hypergamy), spousal role (branch swinging), etc.
I'm not saying I agree / disagree with any of that in particular, but isn't one of the big complaints that society now ALLOWS women specifically to be unencumbered with these rules, always getting the pussy pass, while limiting what men can do?
So isn't MGTOW really a societal complaint?
Would you be MGTOW in a 1900s era conservative society?
Yeah, pretty much. Women are actually fine, nothing wrong with them. Unrestrained women in control of a society is the problem. Patriarchy was a reasonable compromise between the sexes so that each got what they wanted (more or less), and the least amount of harm was done. Yeah, in a reasonable society women are fine.
TRP used to be my ideological allies for a while, but I grew up a little and realized risking everything to get laid is not a great plan.
Would I? Depends. Do I know what I know now? I've said multiple times how even the hardest patriarchy ever created wouldn't be enough for me to trust, let alone forgive our "better halves".
TRP already sees society at irredeemable. They basically state the world is burning and might as well fuck on the way down.
But then you went insane? Yeah, we know.
Get married or shut up, wannabe tradcuck.