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Galean 29 points ago +29 / -0

Leftist have this great argument, I did not chose to be your child so I owe you nothing and you must take care of me.

They are doing mental gymnastics to justify being horrible persons. I've yet to see a vocal leftist that I can admire as a person even if I disagree with them on politics and ideology.

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acp_k2win 34 points ago +34 / -0

Really long but explains it all:

https://www.jordanbpeterson.com/transcripts/biblical-series-v/

tl;dr there are two kinds of people

One is like Abel who shuts up and voluntarily makes the sacrifices and works hard and keeps going despite hardships and doggedly recovers from setbacks and frustrations - this kind of person eventually achieves "success" over a long term.

The other is like Cain who is hyper-sensitive, to the point of paranoia, about the appearance of success. But is also unwilling and deep down is afraid of the sacrifices necessary to achieve it. So Cain makes performantory sacrifices which are ultimately rejected because they aren't sincere. And then he refuses to accept responsibility for his own inadequacies. To protect his fragile and unearned ego from the pain of accepting his failures Cain lashes out and blames everyone and everything else.

Leftists are scions of Cain, who pretend to care and help but really are so terrified of responsibility they act out to deflect any scrutiny of themselves. And they justify their personal resentment and ultimately malice toward those who aren't like them by claiming it is the proper response to the cosmic injustice of their existence.

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APDSmith 16 points ago +16 / -0

Part of being a vocal leftist is being against the unjust and racist standards of behaviour that would allow one to be a decent person worthy of respect.

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DogFacedPepeSoldier 7 points ago +7 / -0

I know exactly one. And I have no idea why tf he's a lefty. He has a very conservative mindset in everything but politics and is very smart.

The only thing I can find that's typical lefty about his is he had a bad experience with conservative Christianity while growing up. (Not abuse. Just judgemental people)

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Galean 10 points ago +10 / -0

I know a very smart person who told me that is ok what they are doing in South Africa because they kill white people. The dude is whiter then I am, Christian and with 2 kids.

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AntonioOfVenice [S] 8 points ago +8 / -0

I am pretty sure that your 'Christianity' is phony as hell if you approve of killing people based on their race. He is no more a faithful Christian than a member of the KKK.

When ISIS started butchering the Christians of the Middle East, there were SJWs - not very smart though - who argued that this was justified because of... the Crusades.

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DogFacedPepeSoldier 7 points ago +7 / -0

This guy would not say that, I'm almost certain. It's more that he's bought into second wave feminism and trans/queen stuff, and wants the government to have more control but also less control over his pet causes.

More of the old hippie model than new critical race theory model.

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elleand202 7 points ago +7 / -0

and wants the government to have more control but also less control over his pet causes.

I saw this attitude on full display on the comment section of Arstechnica. The tech company leftists would cheer at greater government control over about any subject except for when anyone suggested greater government regulation of tech companies. Then they'd scream louder than any ancap.

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AntonioOfVenice [S] 4 points ago +4 / -0

The only thing I can find that's typical lefty about his is he had a bad experience with conservative Christianity while growing up. (Not abuse. Just judgemental people)

And now they are the abusive ones. Perhaps in the long run, this can work to our advantage. Though maybe it will not be, because they are far more intolerant than conservative Christians, who were just intolerant enough to make people angry, but not intolerant enough to intimidate people into supporting them. Falls squarely in the "if you're going to take a shot at the King, you better not miss" territory.

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evilmathmagician 6 points ago +6 / -0

Leftist have this great argument, I did not chose to be your child so I owe you nothing and you must take care of me.

I've seen this and tried to seriously engage it. Not choosing to be born is pretty much a non-point unless you want to make some esoteric buddhist argument.

"I owe you nothing" is a little more involved. It necessitates some form of contempt or abandonment. If your parents didn't raise you at all (like they were in jail and you grew up in an orphanage), then I could accept the claim because it'd prove that the parents did not fulfill their roles. If your parents at least tried, however, you cannot deny them being your parents because to do so is to deny the influence they had on your development, ultimately forcing one to deny themselves. This part actually clicks for leftists to me, as they provide no evidence that they either accept themselves or are happy with themselves.

"You must take care of me" doesn't quite follow unless you take a jump from the previous point to them actively hating themselves and hating their parents for giving them a life of misery and contempt. It's clear the context is of an abusive sort of manipulation.

If the whole phrase were "I did not choose to be your child and you must take care of me" I could accept it as a benign appeal to nature, as it'd be bizarre for a parent to not want to take care of their child - though I would assume that there are some hard limits on being taken care of, such as no abuse tolerated and support not being infinite.

You're right that it's a good representative saying.