I am glad I finally get to see one of these people who think that 'voter ID is racist' in the flesh.
Here in Europe, almost every country requires ID to vote. And not just that, you have to pay to get your ID. It's not free, as it is in Georgia.
Can you comment on that? I'm honestly fascinated by how you pick and choose the stuff that you like from Europe. Apparently, we've lived under 'Jim Crow on steroids' for all this while without noticing it it.
Not to mention that if it's important that the guy picking up sports tickets is the same guy who ordered them (even though you can print out a receipt or a special code), how much more important is it to make sure the integrity of a vote?
It's apples and oranges alright, but not to the benefit of our Democratic friends.
I don't know anything about voting in Europe. Georgia has 6 acceptable IDs, five of which are obtainable by driving, working for government, preparing to travel outside the country, joining the Armed Forces, or being recognized as an Indian.
That leaves out a lot of citizens, but the sixth is a free voter ID card which requires all of these:
A photo identity document or approved non-photo identity document that includes full legal name and date of birth
Documentation showing the voter's date of birth
Evidence that the applicant is a registered voter
Documentation showing the applicant's name and residential address
If that all seems perfectly normal to you then we do not agree that these new regulations are giving every tax-paying citizen an equal opportunity to exercise their franchise.
It's quite cheap to try to make an issue out of Georgia, while refusing to comment on Europe, which if anything has stricter rules, and where IDs are not free. If Georgia is Jim Crow on steroids, as the Democrats claim, then Europe must be Jim Crow on steroids squared, not?
Georgia has 6 acceptable IDs
We have 3 acceptable IDs. So even on that score, Georgia is doing better from your perspective.
If that all seems perfectly normal to you then we do not agree that these new regulations are giving every tax-paying citizen an equal opportunity to exercise their franchise.
It is normal in Europe. And how exactly do you want to ensure election integrity? Or are you against that?
As I said, I don't know anything about voting in Europe. Europe has laws like Georgia's? They are 98 pages long in your jurisdictions? You can, for instance, get arrested for giving water to someone standing in line to vote?
Have you read Georgia's 98 pages?
We have 3 acceptable IDs. So even on that score, Georgia is doing better from your perspective.
What are they?
Does Europe have areas like rural Georgia, where a birth certificate might be hard to come by? Can a person without one vote in Europe? They won't be able to in Georgia unless they've worked for one of those 5 sets of employers.
And how exactly do you want to ensure election integrity?
Election integrity is not my area of expertise. Is it yours? If it was mine my emphasis would be on making sure every citizen of age would have their vote counted. Hopefully that would not mean eliminating a lot of people I wasn't sure about because I had a poor system.
As I said, I don't know anything about voting in Europe.
Maybe you should figure out more about other countries before you start backing a campaign that brands near-universal voting standards as 'Jim Crow on stereoids'?
Or is this a 'Little America' thing where you are too arrogant to pay attention to anything outside your borders? "NO, IT'S JIM CROW, EVEN IF THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES IT!"
You can, for instance, get arrested for giving water to someone standing in line to vote?
Are you asking me, or telling me, and if the latter, why is there a question mark at the end?
Have you read Georgia's 98 pages?
Have you? You're the one purporting to make authoritative comments about the law.
What are they?
Passport, European ID, driver's license.
Does Europe have areas like rural Georgia, where a birth certificate might be hard to come by?
Rural areas are overwhelmingly white in the South. Yet your side has been claiming that the voter ID law is 'racist'.
Can a person without one vote in Europe?
Without an ID? Nope.
Election integrity is not my area of expertise. Is it yours?
It need not be my expertise to be able to point out that the Democrats are screaming about standards that are absolutely universal elsewhere. Even in places like Brazil, where I think administration is even worse than in America. It's absolutely absurd to know that voter ID is required here, but that there are race-baiters in America who claim that it is 'racist'.
If it was mine my emphasis would be on making sure every citizen of age would have their vote counted.
Even if that means that people can vote illegally? People voting illegally means that people will not get their vote counter, as their vote will be canceled out by people who have no right to vote.
I am glad I finally get to see one of these people who think that 'voter ID is racist' in the flesh.
Here in Europe, almost every country requires ID to vote. And not just that, you have to pay to get your ID. It's not free, as it is in Georgia.
Can you comment on that? I'm honestly fascinated by how you pick and choose the stuff that you like from Europe. Apparently, we've lived under 'Jim Crow on steroids' for all this while without noticing it it.
Not to mention that if it's important that the guy picking up sports tickets is the same guy who ordered them (even though you can print out a receipt or a special code), how much more important is it to make sure the integrity of a vote?
It's apples and oranges alright, but not to the benefit of our Democratic friends.
https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/georgia_voter_identification_requirements2
I don't know anything about voting in Europe. Georgia has 6 acceptable IDs, five of which are obtainable by driving, working for government, preparing to travel outside the country, joining the Armed Forces, or being recognized as an Indian.
That leaves out a lot of citizens, but the sixth is a free voter ID card which requires all of these:
If that all seems perfectly normal to you then we do not agree that these new regulations are giving every tax-paying citizen an equal opportunity to exercise their franchise.
It's quite cheap to try to make an issue out of Georgia, while refusing to comment on Europe, which if anything has stricter rules, and where IDs are not free. If Georgia is Jim Crow on steroids, as the Democrats claim, then Europe must be Jim Crow on steroids squared, not?
We have 3 acceptable IDs. So even on that score, Georgia is doing better from your perspective.
It is normal in Europe. And how exactly do you want to ensure election integrity? Or are you against that?
As I said, I don't know anything about voting in Europe. Europe has laws like Georgia's? They are 98 pages long in your jurisdictions? You can, for instance, get arrested for giving water to someone standing in line to vote?
Have you read Georgia's 98 pages?
What are they?
Does Europe have areas like rural Georgia, where a birth certificate might be hard to come by? Can a person without one vote in Europe? They won't be able to in Georgia unless they've worked for one of those 5 sets of employers.
Election integrity is not my area of expertise. Is it yours? If it was mine my emphasis would be on making sure every citizen of age would have their vote counted. Hopefully that would not mean eliminating a lot of people I wasn't sure about because I had a poor system.
Maybe you should figure out more about other countries before you start backing a campaign that brands near-universal voting standards as 'Jim Crow on stereoids'?
Or is this a 'Little America' thing where you are too arrogant to pay attention to anything outside your borders? "NO, IT'S JIM CROW, EVEN IF THE REST OF THE WORLD DOES IT!"
Are you asking me, or telling me, and if the latter, why is there a question mark at the end?
Have you? You're the one purporting to make authoritative comments about the law.
Passport, European ID, driver's license.
Rural areas are overwhelmingly white in the South. Yet your side has been claiming that the voter ID law is 'racist'.
Without an ID? Nope.
It need not be my expertise to be able to point out that the Democrats are screaming about standards that are absolutely universal elsewhere. Even in places like Brazil, where I think administration is even worse than in America. It's absolutely absurd to know that voter ID is required here, but that there are race-baiters in America who claim that it is 'racist'.
Even if that means that people can vote illegally? People voting illegally means that people will not get their vote counter, as their vote will be canceled out by people who have no right to vote.