Pressure hones a population. Remove the pressure, the fat builds up. You're basically describing the Rat/Mouse Utopia experiments.
What supposedly happens if you give handouts to wildlife? The same thing that happens when you give handouts to humans, except the humans can get more vicious and insistent about their perceived entitlements.
In the long run, it's a self-correcting problem, as the next generation will be too useless to even feed itself.
It's broadly called "getting spoilt rotten". A whole population of spoilt rotten people ....
The problem with that view is "too much success". It will vary wildly person to person. Because the problem isn't "too much success". The problem is related to too much success, sure, but the real problem is resting on your laurels. Becoming complacent. "Good Times Create Weak Men"? You can't throw Atilla The Hun a nice birthday party and turn him into a simp cuck. Atilla probably had a LOT of good times, given the amount of people sharing his genetics. Good times don't directly create weak men, they simply allow for, and even reward, their existence, causing them to outbreed the growth and success ones, bringing collapse.
You speak as if seeking growth is the malignancy, the cancer. But ironically (given cancer's form) in that growth can keep you ever-afloat: Infinite growth is not only possible, but necessary. It is the moment we STOP growing, that it crashes down, and your suggestion here would implement that.
It's socialism: "Do not produce more than your neighbor." "Do not excel in science more than the dumbest person." "Stagnate." "Success is dangerous: Winning only brings failure down the line." "You can't have a nightmare if you never have dreams."
And I fundamentally disagree with that worldview.
So long as we have hardship, we can continue to create good times. That hardship, though, should NOT come from limiting humanity. Humans are fantastically limited creatures. There is no end to their limitations. We have hardships all around, if we're willing to shake off the yoke of complacency, the plateau of "good enough", and identify them. I will die one day. That's a huge limitation. I can't lift up my house. Not an important limitation perhaps, but one nonetheless. I need very specific chemical intakes to stay alive, and even a 2% change in oxygen content in the air causes me damage. It's a hardship of all humanity.
But like the collapse of Rome, the hardships the worthless plebs think of are "food", "circus", and "sex", and our society has even shamed that last one out of Maslow's hierarchy. They eat good food, watch fun shows, and they're content. And so they do not progress, for they are content.
People RIGHT NOW are doing your idea: They're slacking. They're coasting. They're letting society fall apart. They're listlessly drifting in the day-to-day, year-to-year. So if you think your idea won't lead to tragedy, great, society is careening off a cliff called "good enough" RIGHT NOW. So rejoice, young socialist: Your utopia where people are handicapped by themselves, the law, and society all in one, is nearly already here.
Only amongst the "elite" that they referred to as "The Beautiful Ones". They just sat around grooming themselves all day, like a bunch of really vain homosexuals.
The rest of the population seems to have gone psychotic and more or less failed at child-rearing.
Pressure hones a population. Remove the pressure, the fat builds up. You're basically describing the Rat/Mouse Utopia experiments.
What supposedly happens if you give handouts to wildlife? The same thing that happens when you give handouts to humans, except the humans can get more vicious and insistent about their perceived entitlements.
In the long run, it's a self-correcting problem, as the next generation will be too useless to even feed itself.
It's broadly called "getting spoilt rotten". A whole population of spoilt rotten people ....
What would shutting it all down look like? It seems impossible.
No offense, but that's vague as hell and just saying "it's possible" doesn't make it so.
If business A is getting too successful and the owner decides to scale back, business B will simply pick up the slack.
The only way it would work is if the government had control of everything, but that would be a disaster.
The problem with that view is "too much success". It will vary wildly person to person. Because the problem isn't "too much success". The problem is related to too much success, sure, but the real problem is resting on your laurels. Becoming complacent. "Good Times Create Weak Men"? You can't throw Atilla The Hun a nice birthday party and turn him into a simp cuck. Atilla probably had a LOT of good times, given the amount of people sharing his genetics. Good times don't directly create weak men, they simply allow for, and even reward, their existence, causing them to outbreed the growth and success ones, bringing collapse.
You speak as if seeking growth is the malignancy, the cancer. But ironically (given cancer's form) in that growth can keep you ever-afloat: Infinite growth is not only possible, but necessary. It is the moment we STOP growing, that it crashes down, and your suggestion here would implement that.
It's socialism: "Do not produce more than your neighbor." "Do not excel in science more than the dumbest person." "Stagnate." "Success is dangerous: Winning only brings failure down the line." "You can't have a nightmare if you never have dreams."
And I fundamentally disagree with that worldview.
So long as we have hardship, we can continue to create good times. That hardship, though, should NOT come from limiting humanity. Humans are fantastically limited creatures. There is no end to their limitations. We have hardships all around, if we're willing to shake off the yoke of complacency, the plateau of "good enough", and identify them. I will die one day. That's a huge limitation. I can't lift up my house. Not an important limitation perhaps, but one nonetheless. I need very specific chemical intakes to stay alive, and even a 2% change in oxygen content in the air causes me damage. It's a hardship of all humanity.
But like the collapse of Rome, the hardships the worthless plebs think of are "food", "circus", and "sex", and our society has even shamed that last one out of Maslow's hierarchy. They eat good food, watch fun shows, and they're content. And so they do not progress, for they are content.
People RIGHT NOW are doing your idea: They're slacking. They're coasting. They're letting society fall apart. They're listlessly drifting in the day-to-day, year-to-year. So if you think your idea won't lead to tragedy, great, society is careening off a cliff called "good enough" RIGHT NOW. So rejoice, young socialist: Your utopia where people are handicapped by themselves, the law, and society all in one, is nearly already here.
Isn't that the one where the males just gave up wanting females?
Males gave up, females became bad parents
You forgot the incest. Yeah, it's kind of weird how close we are to that experiment.
Everyone's watching incest porn, men gave up on women and women are killing their own kids.
Of course, humans are more complex, so that doesn't give the full picture.
Humans only appear more complex because we're seeing them from the inside.
Things always seem simpler when you're looking from the outside.
Only amongst the "elite" that they referred to as "The Beautiful Ones". They just sat around grooming themselves all day, like a bunch of really vain homosexuals.
The rest of the population seems to have gone psychotic and more or less failed at child-rearing.
Turns out mice can go MGTOW too. Based.
Sounds like humanity, ironically.
Freddie's video