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Efforts are being made to cancel Baen Books, a staunchly anti-woke long-time scifi/fantasy publisher (monsterhunternation.com)
posted 5 years ago by willy-willis 5 years ago by willy-willis +46 / -0
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– willy-willis [S] 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

Context: Baen Books, the single biggest anti-woke scifi and fantasy publishing house I can think of (ex. among others, they print the works of Tom Kratman, which would make the eyes of anyone ideologically left of Hugues de Payens bleed), is being accused of basically nurturing right-wing terrorists by the otherwise-obscure nobody Jason Sanford. It basically boils down to some hotheads fedposting in a little too much detail on their forum, which has a reputation for laissez-faire moderation and being host to primarily hard-right views (in addition to obviously being a place to interact with professional & amateur authors being published by Baen).

So far, Baen has shut down said forum. It's uncertain whether this will be temporary or not, but it almost certainly isn't going to be the end of this mess now that Social Justice has once again smelled blood in the water.

Sanford's accusations

Official response from Baen's publisher, Toni Weisskopf

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– truenationalist 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

It would be nice if ONE of these companies just said, "Hey, don't like it? GTFO."

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– GoofTroop186 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

It’s easy to say that right up until a few trillion dollars worth of megacorps collude to eliminate your web presence.

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– reidj 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Since this is a publishing company working in novels, all you'd need is two companies to majorly cripple them - Amazon and Barnes & Nobles.

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– Vordrak 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

The irony is, the main reason I used Baen's website is to buy the Kencyrath novels, by P C Hodgell. She is a former academic and her work is considered feminist, albeit relatively moderate. The series is obscure, but her early stuff and much of the metaplot is good, but she tends to ramble and the plot needs wrapping up. Regardless, the series is hardly alt-Right!

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– willy-willis [S] 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Nothing ironic about that, Baen prides itself on publishing quality works regardless of ideology - hence why it's associated with hard-right authors and literature, because it's one of the few (and ever fewer) publishing houses that will touch them with a 10 ft pole these days instead of simply refusing them on grounds of 'reee right wing stuff icky propaganda'. When he was still alive, Jim Baen had the integrity to engage authors whose politics he didn't like in honest debate, published their works anyway if they were of actually good quality, and made lifelong friends that way.

I'm sure Sanford's followers won't be pleased to know that Eric Flint, author of the excellent 1632 books and unironic Trotskyist & union organizer (who to his credit was brave enough to walk the walk, almost getting killed by the mafia for opposing their infiltration into the Teamsters and by the Klan for trying to organize multiracial unions in Alabama back in the 60s-70s), was a personal friend of Jim Baen himself and is now defending Baen Books and bluntly calling Sanford a liar & coward.

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– deleted 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

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