Two books perfect to get into the mindset of our current enemies, whether they're "rational" leftists or Marxist zombies. Knowing your opponents is one of the many ways to formulate tactics in getting ahead of the war.
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The constant lumping a group of people into believing in a political doctrine and having power based on characteristics they have no control over such as race is a very sjw like belief system. and I too find the anti-Semitic conspiracy posts to be very wrong and to be giving political opponents ammunition.
Poor Jews stand with Poor Atheists and Poor Catholics and Poor Ughyrs and Poor Daoists. You can care about categories once you're in one that matters, like "the elite".
One dirt farmer looks at another dirt farmer, and says "you have more freckles than I, therefore I must distrust you." the other returns with "your hair is wavier than mine, therefore I distrust you in turn". The king looks upon both and says "keep working, slaves", unable to exert the effort to distinguish a freckled slave from a wavy-haired slave. To him, they are all the same inferior entity.
Keeping in mind that the king is defined as the one with the most power and wealth, whom do you imagine jews to be in this metaphor?
That depends. Are they poor? Then they're the slaves in the metaphor. If the king is white anglo-saxon protestant, that doesn't make all WASPs kings. In fact, all but one WASP are not kings, and to define the king as anything except "King" does a disservice to all who share those traits. If the king is 5'8", does that mean all people 5'8" are kings?
We can happily put aside identity politics the moment everyone agrees to peacefully disarm. When people push their own tribalism non-stop, by word or deed, then only a fool would abandon his or her own tribalism. And if another tribe is attempting to systematically deny you tribal solidarity and collective action while nakedly participating in their own, then it is correct and good to identity them as your enemy.
This is all basic game theory shit. It's kind of sad watching people fail to understand it. I mean Christopher Langan gets it, but I suppose his IQ is around 200.
What does basic game theory tell us about convincing your enemies to attack the wrong group, while promoting factionalism in their own ranks?
Because, you're falling for it.
I feel the same way. Using race, ancestral culture, or whatever as a divisive factor is their tactic though. We don't win using their tactics against them, particularly when they control the narrative spin with their propaganda empire. I'm totally cool with reading any book to educate myself on it's contents, but I read almost everything with a skepticism and not an assumption of truth.
I get it, the tactics of the right aren't working. I'm not one to cry over some tactic having bad "optics" either. I just think trying to sling their shit back over the fence having stuck our messages on it is not the way. I don't have an answer to what we should be doing, because I have no idea. I just don't think it's this type stuff.
On the other hand, when I see Eric Weinstein hold a grudge with the Roman Empire over something they did to Jews 2000 years ago -- especially when he provides no evidence it was even done to anyone in his direct ancestral line -- I can't help but have a "big think" about the levels of ethnic solidarity at least some members of that particular group have and are allowed to have and how that might manifest itself in other more relevant areas of life.
Whether the cause is genetic or just due to the lack of being told "knock that shit off" I don't know. It's not my desire to "other" any of my fellow citizens, but if they decide to "other" me that's valuable information to know; and it's something I don't want to be blind to.
His recent takes are some of the biggest unintentional red pills I've ever seen. When you see raw Jewish tribalism of that nature, a ton of "problematic" tumblers fall neatly in place.
Seriously. I was ambivalent about all this, then all of a sudden it's "Fuck Emperor Titus for what he did to my people!" And you're supposed to be one of the "reasonable" ones saying this as justification for attacking people for taking what you consider "extremist" positions?
At least the "extremists" are reacting to things going on today, to them and their direct family, by the present Western governments, rather than something that happened to people who may not have been related to them, done by a nation that no longer exists.
I guess what I'm thinking and probably doing a shit job at explaining is I don't think it's a good offensive tactic to use with what we're up against. I could be totally wrong, and I'm not bothered by that prospect I just haven't been convinced otherwise yet.
Defensive tactic on the other hand, is there ever really a reason to not have additional defensive tactics? I guess this has gotten off on a tangent too, since OP suggested reading some books and it turned into a racial warfare discussion. I'd never tell someone to not read a book of any sort. I might even read some of the suggestions myself. No reason to fear additional information if you're comfortable with your mind not taking it and making it into a manifesto.
GG did work and it worked without the glowy anti semitism. That’s why it lives in their heads rent free. I have no interest in any form of identity politics and believe those bringing it into KiA should be laughed out.
Look around. You think GG worked? GG fucking lost hard.
It was a Pyrrhic victory but still a victory. No one until GG stood up to them. If it was a hard loss GG would not be the monster under the bed for them like it is. I don’t think a month has gone by over the past 6 years where some leftist outlet has not brought up GG. If you embrace identity politics and just blame another group for the worlds problems you are no different than them, and you are going to recruit way fewer people.
Yes, I'm sure GG would have worked much better if a bunch of gamers had been screaming about the need to gatekeep jews out of gaming. That would definitely have accomplished everything.
Go back to half KIA on reddit then. That's where you belong if you're not yet ready to grapple with horrifying realities.
Nah, I’m smart enough to know that identity politics is identity politics and I’m not going to embrace one to fight another.
Good point. I wasn't attuned to gaming journalism to catch on to Gamergate when it was new, but since I hang around here I've educated myself on it.
I think it's the same type opportunity there is with this whole GameStop stock debacle. It's not necessarily about telling them what to think (also leftist tactic) or forcing them to all agree. It's more to help more people come to the realization that what's being presented to them is a grandiose facade and they need to look for the man behind the curtain.
I’m not for telling people how to think either nor for all to agree on everything. But I’m going to point out this is sjw bull shit when they point to the man behind the curtain is people of “x ancestry”. It’s not correct and it is not helpful in anyway. It does not help with combating censorship. It does not help combating corruption in journalism, entertainment, or places of political power. What it does is give the far left something to point at as an example to dismiss arguments and press those who do businesses with us to cut ties and deplatform. It scares off normies. It’s identity politics minus the hammer and sickles and it’s a dumb take.
What the right needs to do is to stop being reactionary and start being fucking assertive and unifying.
It's not just that the enemy's tactics won't work against them, it's that it also won't work for us.
The right simply doesn't even think in the same way that the Left does. It's something about the mindset of the right that closes ranks, gives ground, and isolates itself everytime when threatened. Haidt's probably right about "conservatives" existing as the result of a psyche that is reacting to a kind of disease threat. The Left exploits that by feeding the right narratives, and exploiting their natural reaction to give ground when threatened, hoping to push them into a purity spiral that collapses all possible threats at the same time.
The right must push a unifying, affirmative, and heroic narrative for itself going forward. Accepting the Leftist narrative about being racist, and then ranting about the Jews is literally the opposite of that.
The unity part has to go with the assertive part to be successful. Right now I couldn't imagine wading into battle, literally or figuratively, with much of the right. Because as soon as the time came that life or livelihood has to be put on the line, there's zero confidence the people beside you would still be there. It's like Patton said "Hell, they won't miss me, just one man in thousands. What if every man said that? Where in the hell would we be then?"
Huge amounts would say just that, "they won't miss me" then all you've got left is a few that have been hung out to dry with no chance of success. That applies in a lot of different ways even just in the standard political space, just look how many Republicans backed down as soon as it might cost them something.
I 100% agree.
Way too much black pills on the right. It's a problem with their psyche.
I'm not kidding when I say a ton of the resistance is coming almost explicitly from, not only veterans, but veteran US Marines. The psyche of a Marine promotes the idea of responding to impossible odds with obstinance, aggression, and an utter refusal to lose. Frankly, I don't find that anywhere else on the right.
Here's what I mean: Task Force "Papa Bear" has their HQ unit attacked by an Iraqi Armored platoon. Non-infantry Marines respond by not withdrawing, and engaging in direct combat with enemy armor. One Marine corporal charges out into the desert and knocks a tank out with an AT-4.
The kind of psyche that Marines develop in dire situations where they should normally consider withdrawing is their most valuable asset in combat. They go all "No fuck you!" and rush a tank. They promote not only marksmanship, but explicit aggression and violence of action in order to accomplish objectives.
That psyche is guaranteed to generate fucking results. And it's exactly the kind of mentality you want in a fight. What we keep seeing on the right is most of the reactionaries withdrawing or black-pilling, most of the conservatives trying consolidate, and a bunch of veterans (mostly Marines) explicitly defying authority and doing the genuine dirty work of challenging health departments, police forces, and political leadership through Civil Disobedience.
Being a former Marine... you can guess why I like that shit, and want to promote the rest of the right joining in the fight that's already underway.