Since it is relevant to this post I'm black and 40 years old. The last few days I tried to give some pushback against my cousins (have an extremely large extended family) who are left wing. Outside my immediate family most of my cousins are left of center. One got mad at me for asking him to be consistent and saying that you can't condemn the storming of the capitol while also cheerleading the rioting and destruction this past summer. Of course he mentioned peaceful protests and I agreed that there were peaceful demonstrations (even though they peddled a fake racial and cop narrative) but the fact remains that not once did he ever show any empathy for business owners whose businesses were destroyed.
Also gave some pushback to the whole "this is white privilege" nonsense by pointing out all the cities who bent over backward to avoid holding any BLM/Antifa members accountable. So I'm not the most liked person right now in my group of cousins.
Last year one of my cousins got mad at me for posting a Larry Elder quote that vague concepts like micro-aggressions and systemic racism come about when there is a low supply of racism and a very high demand. I'm ashamed to admit that in my early teens I went through a brief "everything is racist" period, but at least that gave me a firsthand understanding of how poisonous victim culture and looking for racism around every corner is.
I've had white lefties call me a white supremacist and one got mad at me for saying that if he wanted to help black people then simply treat everyone equally and hold everyone accountable for bad behavior. One of the funniest things said to me was that since my ancestry DNA said I was about 20% European I was told that I didn't inherit a European appearance but I inherited their "white personality"
I have zero problem in condemning bad behavior regardless of who is doing it. I just find it astonishing how the media can condemn storming the capitol with a straight face and act like nobody remembers them cheerleading all the violence and destruction of the riots this past summer.
Thank you for your time.
Good point. I have decided just to talk about sports or family going forward.
Sigh. That'd be nice. I can't watch sports any more because I'm not interested in being lectured to on topics that the lecturers are ignorant.
Well baseball is my favorite sport and they learned quickly that their audience wasn’t having it. Also started watching Hockey 2 years back. I just watch the Cowboys with NFL
My condolences
I'm only hanging on to a couple sports if anything as common interests with a couple close friends and my dad. Particularly my dad as there were times in my life we had nothing in common at all but we both like baseball.
They will be getting much, much less of my money and attention than they did as recently as 2019 though. Nor will the NFL or NBA be allowed in.
call them house niggers cause they're definitely in the Democrats' pockets.
Unless you don't want to anger your family further, which is reasonable.
Lol! Yea I’ll just stick to safe subjects from now on.
Uhh, that's normas to you, pal.
Normx, bigot
Catherine Austin Fitts has pointed out that the rioters were targeting property in opportunity zones next to Federal Reserve branches with laser precision. Property values were devastated in areas billionaires want to buy, especially when combined with the lockdowns. The funniest part is that, although these shopkeepers are targeted regardless of race, it is disproportionately dispossessing blacks. BLM is a cover for bankers to do a land grab from black people.
Interesting. Another thing people don’t realize is that business owners generally won’t stay in neighborhoods that riot. Sad thing is there will be people who have very limited job opportunities
I'm a bit lucky in that I only have limited leftists to deal with and since I'm the one that moved away I'm not as tied in to the extended family as much.
My brother is a leftist though and I do think the day comes that it splits us. For now, if it gets political I remain a pretend centrist. I think if he really were to think about it he would have me down as right-of-center but not Trump worshiper that would never vote for a Democrat. While it's not perfect it's close enough I can work with it. We have enough other stuff in common that politics doesn't ever have to come up. It's really odd with him too because he's not dumb, incapable, lazy, or other things you'd attribute to a soyboy, just gullible.
I have forever had a firm rule, no family on social media, period. It's not really relevant anymore since I've ditched anything mainstream social media anyway, but it helped. I think I did that because as a kid the internet was a place to escape family drama, not embrace it.
Not a bad rule. I’ll do that going forward.
Wow! Are you from Texas too? I live in DFW
you should avoid speaking politic with family members at it only create bad blood but if it is really inevitable. you can say something like this:
there are people very powerful that hope to put blacks against whites AGAIN because they want to get in power with the chaos. if you say whites are bad vote me and I let you fuck the bad whites, that is very easy. fix the economy for everyone? that is hard. those things about white privilege are all bullshit. to make black go against whites. they just want to create an enemy
then these fuckers lose control of the rage of the people and the people take the guns. now I have to fight a war against whites because what? the lazy ass of a politician? the lazy ass of the adviser of a politician? is not convenient.
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if they ask you who are these politicians?
the ones that make more posts on Twitter! or else, fuck I know who they are? not the politician you know. these fuckers are the adviser of politicians they are in the spot that gives them big money but don't expose their face.to the public so they are comfy and safe.
if they act prideful
yes you can fight and you can win. but can also the rest of the family fight? the kids? why I have to risk the future mine or the family for what? for glory?
or also
yeah. people don't giving a fuck about the color of the skin. is not the way to make people forget their race and racism. cramming race into every decision you make in your life and them cramming race into every decision you make daily basis is the way to make people forget about their race and racism.
if they say something you can reply just deny it with your head and say that the risk is to high. or is not convenient. and cut the debate
this discourse has some advantage: is the truth, is politically neutral, it forces the interlocutors to move from a matter of principles to a matter of convenience and practicability, is realistic and if they do decide to check they will easily find confirmation about what you say. the disadvantage is that they may call you coward.
also about with this happens, I post a link as he explains it better than me. you are in for a wild ride.
https://newdiscourses.com/2020/06/reasons-critical-race-theory-terrible-dealing-racism/
The thing about the political divide is it's only in the solutions to the problem. Once they see how much everyone agrees on what the problem is and who is causing it, things will be much easy.
Our common enemy is the establishment, the elites who hold all the power. Ask them if they've heard of the Tuskegee Experiments. Who did that? The government. Redlining? The banks, part of the establishment. Funneling crack into the city? The Deep State, part of the establishment.
if they try to say "white people" make them realize the average white person on the street had no more power over any of this than they do. Those in power want us divided so they can win easier.
Thank you. I’ll try that tactic. I realized long ago that there is a lot of money to be made by racial division
Insanity. Sorry to hear that you have family who think that way.
And yeah the hypocrisy on display this week is next level.
I hate to break it to ya but....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eqkqir9XUAI5xwZ?format=jpg&name=large
Lol! Yea not like I’ve haven’t heard that before.
Yeah that's gotta be annoying.
Just made me think of a more serious reply, but I'll make a new comment.
It is racist but for some reason they don’t see that. I gave up trying to point that out.
I figure you have two choices. One is just to go along and get along.
But if you want to win arguements with people who act in this way, you may need to pull out the big guns.
"One STDV had a post discussing the futility of arguing with modern Liberals. No matter how logical your argument, they will dismiss it in the stupidest fashion, and then all pat each other on the back – the idiots of Idiocracy, all dazzled by their own brilliance. Of course such a mind as the Liberal’s has no use for logic – its sole measure of success is not the degree to which its argument comports with logic, but rather the degree to which its argument averts the shocking agony inflicted by the raw amygdala For this reason you might be well advised to review the post on the origins of the raw amygdala here. It might also help, after one grasps the basic premise herein, to examing the concept of amygdala hijack, as it is a similar concept to what is presented here, and an understanding of it will aid in understanding this material."
https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/touching-the-raw-amygdala-part-i-foundational-understandings/
Sort of a nuclear option, but it should cause them to sod off...
IDK if I believe in it all or would use it, but it is a neat read.
I had a great talk last night with a leftist buddy of mine over a few beers. As it turns out, we both highlight to others our friendship as an example of two people who fervently disagree but can have rational conversations about our differences. I don't know anyone else like that, and he doesn't either.
If a fair exchange of ideas doesn't exist with someone, you're not going to force it to exist. I don't argue with people. It never goes well, no matter how perfect your argumentation is. You kinda just have to cherish your friends and family for different reasons than their ideologies. But if they can't respect that you think differently and award you the same space you give them, fuck em. They don't deserve you.
Yea I got some leftist friends that I get along great with. I guess with cousins it’s a bit different since I grew up with a lot of them.