/b/ is literally filled with sissies writing about this. I don't know why it surprises anyone. Women aren't self aware enough to be this open about it, but it works plenty on them too.
They all see themselves are noble, virtuous people with shameful kinky sides who long to be exploited by larger, more brutish evil men. Its why women fucked conquerors throughout history, its why BLACKED porn is literally a major category as is rapey everything in women's smut novels.
All this does is show whoever wrote this, likely a sissy loser of some sort, sees the world in incredibly simple stereotypes.
Sexual Selection for women will always favor those who are capable of protecting them, even if other aspects may be unattractive. The link between sex and violence is that women want to make sure men's violence can be used to protect them, and by extension their family.
I think you're going a little far about women being fucked by conquerors. It was not like women were looking to watch their homes get burned, their husbands/brothers/fathers get murdered, themselves get raped, and they and their children sold into slavery. That repeatedly happened in many conquests. It was not a positive or a kink, it was a form of brutality, subjugation, genocide, and a prevention of insurgency. Then there's the survival aspect. If your friends, family, and children are dead, but you won't be sold off as a slave, it might be in your best survival interests to at least allow yourself to be raped in order not to anger the soldiers/warriors that might simply kill you out of annoyance, embarrassment, or rejection. If the Mongols, the Mayans, the Islamists, or the Japanese Fascists show up, you just gotta do what you gotta do.
The allure that women have is, as I said, power. Specifically a kind of power that can be used for protection. The Left has so poisoned men in their own ideological peer groups that the men that women want can't be found among the Left. The same can be said among the mainstream American middle-class culture to a similar degree.
This is why 50 Shades of Grey, both the pro-abuse film and the genuine rape erotica fan-fic was popular. Also why so much of women's porn to porn companies involves violence and getting fucking choked. Women do not actually want to be harmed, but there is no better expression of masculine power and protection than a man both valuing you and dominating you in bed. Giggity
There is an aspect of the notion of conquest. As in, the idea of being overwhelmed by dominance and power. However, actual conquest is a terrible violation at best, and not something to be desired.
Again, this is the difference between the middle-class romance fantasy of young woman running off into the wilderness and being carried off, and then married, by some strapping young tribal warrior; and the actual reality of a woman being carried off by a pack of tribal warriors who have just murdered her husband and eldest son, who were defending their farm, watched them scalp her remaining 3 children (including a daughter), and have her be raped by at least one of the warriors, then sold off to another tribe, where she would either be exchanged again or brought into the tribe as a member of lower rank.
I think you are going way to far on that. A few human conquests did not cause such a fundamental difference between males and females. That trait is probably older than humans themselves.
You sound like you've never seen a woman betray her family and destroy her home for a cheap fling with a methhead who ended up beating the shit out of her and raping her.
It was not a positive or a kink, it was a form of brutality, subjugation, genocide, and a prevention of insurgency.
By a lot of suggestions of fetishism studies, "rape fetishes" were developed as a consequence of women learning to cope with the constant rape of human's more animalistic eras of development. Learn to enjoy it because its gonna happen anyway. Which is now a leftover of evolution once we progressed to being less rapey as a species.
I didn't mean to imply they sought to get conquered to fulfill orgasms, but it influenced their decision making process once the conquering came.
Women do not actually want to be harmed
Strong disagree. Have been involved in many sadomasochistic relationships, and the level of violence and harm they demanded from me was often far and above my comfort level and I heard to overcome my own basic decency to reach it. One wanted to be choked until she literally passed out. Another wanted me to slice her with a knife over and over and feed her the blood. All consensual for the record, but still harm was done.
These are extremes, but not as rare as you would think once you get involved in the "lifestyle." Many even "normal" women will allow you a level of harm with sufficient attraction to you that you'd be shocked by.
I do completely agree there is that difference. Many end up paying the price for not knowing that. The line between the two is often not well defined in their head.
By a lot of suggestions of fetishism studies, "rape fetishes" were developed as a consequence of women learning to cope with the constant rape of human's more animalistic eras of development.
I don't really buy that. I would expect that if this were true, the male experience of rape would be far less able to cope, but I've seen no evidence of that being true.
I didn't mean to imply they sought to get conquered to fulfill orgasms, but it influenced their decision making process once the conquering came.
Right, but there's a difference between a fairly rational survival choice and a fetish.
These are extremes, but not as rare as you would think once you get involved in the "lifestyle."
I feel like that's more likely to be the result of having been involved with "the lifestyle", rather than just the aggregate results.
I do completely agree there is that difference. Many end up paying the price for not knowing that. The line between the two is often not well defined in their head.
Right, and I think that discrepancy is coming out as a result of the influences in society that are promoting femininity in men as a moral good.
/b/ is literally filled with sissies writing about this. I don't know why it surprises anyone. Women aren't self aware enough to be this open about it, but it works plenty on them too.
They all see themselves are noble, virtuous people with shameful kinky sides who long to be exploited by larger, more brutish evil men. Its why women fucked conquerors throughout history, its why BLACKED porn is literally a major category as is rapey everything in women's smut novels.
All this does is show whoever wrote this, likely a sissy loser of some sort, sees the world in incredibly simple stereotypes.
There's a dating site experment that proved wombyn will fuck actual nazi tattoo boys and rapists, if he's hot enough.
The thirst is real.
I have that image somewhere.
Can confirm. Am an open and very hateful misogynist in real life. Still fuck, even many feminists.
Somewhat Agree.
Sexual Selection for women will always favor those who are capable of protecting them, even if other aspects may be unattractive. The link between sex and violence is that women want to make sure men's violence can be used to protect them, and by extension their family.
I think you're going a little far about women being fucked by conquerors. It was not like women were looking to watch their homes get burned, their husbands/brothers/fathers get murdered, themselves get raped, and they and their children sold into slavery. That repeatedly happened in many conquests. It was not a positive or a kink, it was a form of brutality, subjugation, genocide, and a prevention of insurgency. Then there's the survival aspect. If your friends, family, and children are dead, but you won't be sold off as a slave, it might be in your best survival interests to at least allow yourself to be raped in order not to anger the soldiers/warriors that might simply kill you out of annoyance, embarrassment, or rejection. If the Mongols, the Mayans, the Islamists, or the Japanese Fascists show up, you just gotta do what you gotta do.
The allure that women have is, as I said, power. Specifically a kind of power that can be used for protection. The Left has so poisoned men in their own ideological peer groups that the men that women want can't be found among the Left. The same can be said among the mainstream American middle-class culture to a similar degree.
This is why 50 Shades of Grey, both the pro-abuse film and the genuine rape erotica fan-fic was popular. Also why so much of women's porn to porn companies involves violence and getting fucking choked. Women do not actually want to be harmed, but there is no better expression of masculine power and protection than a man both valuing you and dominating you in bed. Giggity
There is an aspect of the notion of conquest. As in, the idea of being overwhelmed by dominance and power. However, actual conquest is a terrible violation at best, and not something to be desired.
Again, this is the difference between the middle-class romance fantasy of young woman running off into the wilderness and being carried off, and then married, by some strapping young tribal warrior; and the actual reality of a woman being carried off by a pack of tribal warriors who have just murdered her husband and eldest son, who were defending their farm, watched them scalp her remaining 3 children (including a daughter), and have her be raped by at least one of the warriors, then sold off to another tribe, where she would either be exchanged again or brought into the tribe as a member of lower rank.
Those are different.
I think you are going way to far on that. A few human conquests did not cause such a fundamental difference between males and females. That trait is probably older than humans themselves.
You sound like you've never seen a woman betray her family and destroy her home for a cheap fling with a methhead who ended up beating the shit out of her and raping her.
I'm speaking in general terms. Please don't take it personally.
By a lot of suggestions of fetishism studies, "rape fetishes" were developed as a consequence of women learning to cope with the constant rape of human's more animalistic eras of development. Learn to enjoy it because its gonna happen anyway. Which is now a leftover of evolution once we progressed to being less rapey as a species.
I didn't mean to imply they sought to get conquered to fulfill orgasms, but it influenced their decision making process once the conquering came.
Strong disagree. Have been involved in many sadomasochistic relationships, and the level of violence and harm they demanded from me was often far and above my comfort level and I heard to overcome my own basic decency to reach it. One wanted to be choked until she literally passed out. Another wanted me to slice her with a knife over and over and feed her the blood. All consensual for the record, but still harm was done.
These are extremes, but not as rare as you would think once you get involved in the "lifestyle." Many even "normal" women will allow you a level of harm with sufficient attraction to you that you'd be shocked by.
I do completely agree there is that difference. Many end up paying the price for not knowing that. The line between the two is often not well defined in their head.
I don't really buy that. I would expect that if this were true, the male experience of rape would be far less able to cope, but I've seen no evidence of that being true.
Right, but there's a difference between a fairly rational survival choice and a fetish.
I feel like that's more likely to be the result of having been involved with "the lifestyle", rather than just the aggregate results.
Right, and I think that discrepancy is coming out as a result of the influences in society that are promoting femininity in men as a moral good.