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posted 4 years ago by NihilistCaregiver 4 years ago by NihilistCaregiver +46 / -4
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– Piroko 2 points 4 years ago +5 / -3

Because state level Republicans have TOTAL control over redistricting in twice as many seats as the Democrats do, and an advantage in control in most of the remaining seats.

In 2012, despite having Obama on the ticket, the Democrats failed to regain the seats they lost in 2010. This failure was due to redistricting, which cemented the Republican advantage in the house. The democrats couldn't regain the speakership until 2019.

The same thing happened to them in 2002, when Hastert survived despite Bush being unpopular. Again, this was due to redistricting.

The state Republicans will create another Republican house through redistricting, and once again it will take the Democrats most of the decade to dig themselves out of the latest hole redistricting put them in.

This happened because they gave up on their goal of trying to compete for state houses. After 2012, the DNC and DCCC had made it their goal of not being in that situation again in 2020. They wanted to win 2020 at the state level. But Trump beating Clinton changed all that. It made them lose their fucking minds and forget their long term goal.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The same thing happened to them in 2002, when Hastert survived despite Bush being unpopular

Wut? Bush was on a post-9/11 high in 2002. That is why the GOP gained seats, which is very unusual in a midterm.

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– Piroko -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

That's the narrative, yes, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

On a precinct by precinct level, if the 2002 congressional elections had been held with the district assignments of the 1990 census, Bush would have lost Congress.

The war high had nothing to do it with, the entire victory was through the redistricting of the 2000 census.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Whether or not that is true, what certainly is not true is that Bush was unpopular in 2002. Quite the opposite was true. So that claim was definitely false.

That said, I think you were right in your broader argument about redistricting.

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– MargarineMongoose -2 points 4 years ago +2 / -4

Redistricting doesn't matter you fucking mouth breather. You showing up to a polling station doesn't matter, your vote doesn't fucking count anymore.

You're too fucking stupid to be anything other than controlled opposition. Get the fuck out of here.

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– Piroko 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

Redistricting doesn't matter

Actually it does, because redistricting decides which ballots count for who.

The democrats are very good at making ballots appear, yes. At certain precincts.

And if all those precincts are bunched together to contribute to exactly one representative, they can ballot stuff as much as they want, and it won't fucking matter towards the actual composition of the house of representatives.

You're too fucking stupid

Well, I'm rich and statistically speaking you're probably not so... what does that say about you?

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +2 / -1

Screw that guy, but also screw the rich. You're not smarter or better than anyone if you are rich, any more than Robin DeAngelo is.

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– MargarineMongoose 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

It says you're projecting your insecurities and trying desperately to compensate.

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– Piroko 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

Oh, and what insecurities would that be?

I'm in the one demographic the democrats dare not piss off: rich old people.

I'll be dead before before the leftist agenda is ever realized. Sure, I'm aware the United States is in decline. But it's been in decline for a long time and it'll be in decline for longer than I'll be around. I can say that I genuinely do not care who leads the United States so long as there is gridlock. Can you?

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– AntonioOfVenice -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

Wait, you're telling people that they shouldn't vote to keep radical kneelers out of office, and it's other people who are the controlled opposition?

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– CptLightning 2 points 4 years ago +3 / -1

You can use your ballot box all you like. It no longer matters. If you can't see that from the events of the last 7 weeks, I don't know what to tell you.

We're nearly through using the jury box as well, with courts refusing to see cases on merits and instead dismiss on bs procedurals.

Only one box left after that

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– MargarineMongoose 0 points 4 years ago +1 / -1

I am not advocating that people stop voting.

I am however advocating that people recognize that elections are now a farce and that their vote will not be counted because it's now established that there are no consequences for cheating.

You're controlled opposition too though, so go back to reddit where you belong. I'm sure there's some posts over there that need to be pruned so you can tongue some more admin anus.

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