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posted 4 years ago by NihilistCaregiver 4 years ago by NihilistCaregiver +46 / -4
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– Piroko 5 points 4 years ago +8 / -3

last minute win

I think that thinking of it in those terms is the wrong mentality.

While I have my opinions on the outcome, I'm looking at the longer game. A Trump reelection wouldn't defeat the left. But Biden presidency may just kill the Democratic party.

I've been watching the Democrats flirt with disaster for thirty years, ever since they played a bait & switch with the far left by tapping Al Gore as VP. They know they need the progressives, but they also know that the progressive wing cannot win elections.

In 2022, the Democrats WILL lose the house. This much is set in stone, the redistricting is going to crush them. How they'll do in the Senate is less clear, as there are vulnerable seats on both sides of that class.

The Biden administration will not achieve anything of note. Even if they picked up the Senate, they won't expand the court. The party might be that stupid but the individual senators aren't.

It's a nice rallying cry to say that they would, but the likelihood of it actually happening is zero.

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– RaisingPhoenix 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

With the brazen rigging they pulled off in this election, and the lack of punishment for it, I genuinely doubt that the establishment would lose the midterms.

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– HisHolyMajesty2 0 points 4 years ago +3 / -3

They'll try to cheat, but it won't be enough. Sad thing is, this situation is entirely the result of Covid, a veritable act of God that the Democrats exploited as much as possible. 2020 was a singular moment in history they took advantage of, but politics is not static. Come 2022, with Covid being an unpleasant memory by then, they won't be able to abuse mail in ballots like they did in 2020.

It's just so damn unfortunate that of all the years Covid had to come along, it was 2020.

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– ProfessorCrackPipe 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

I disagree completely. It’s possible, although unlikely, that the virus “got out” on accident in China. However, everything that happened after it did was 100% planned for political means. This was no act of god. It was an act of the globalists.

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– HisHolyMajesty2 -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

It was an act of God.

One the establishment took ruthless advantage of.

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– Kingarthas2 8 points 4 years ago +9 / -1

Oh please, mail in voting helped them no doubt but look at how blatant they were this time, theyre not going to stop, shit's going to become the norm. This is banana republic type shit and people said they won't do it again, theyre either delusional or part of the problem.

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– Piroko -1 points 4 years ago +2 / -3

At the congressional race level, gerrymandering is far more powerful than ballot stuffing, and the GOP is VERY good at gerrymandering.

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– 6363488 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

If the Democrats/deep state get away with stealing this election this blatantly and the media is this controlled... There will never be fair elections again.

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– Piroko -2 points 4 years ago +2 / -4

The elections never were fair.

It's just that 2022 is the Republican's turn to flex.

The Democrats are good at stuffing. The Republicans are much better at gerrymandering. Every ten years, the GOP puts the democrats in a hole through redistricting.

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– MargarineMongoose 5 points 4 years ago +6 / -1

In 2022, the Democrats WILL lose the house.

This is a retarded take. Why would they ever lose anything ever again? Vote rigging works and has no consequences.

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– Piroko 2 points 4 years ago +5 / -3

Because state level Republicans have TOTAL control over redistricting in twice as many seats as the Democrats do, and an advantage in control in most of the remaining seats.

In 2012, despite having Obama on the ticket, the Democrats failed to regain the seats they lost in 2010. This failure was due to redistricting, which cemented the Republican advantage in the house. The democrats couldn't regain the speakership until 2019.

The same thing happened to them in 2002, when Hastert survived despite Bush being unpopular. Again, this was due to redistricting.

The state Republicans will create another Republican house through redistricting, and once again it will take the Democrats most of the decade to dig themselves out of the latest hole redistricting put them in.

This happened because they gave up on their goal of trying to compete for state houses. After 2012, the DNC and DCCC had made it their goal of not being in that situation again in 2020. They wanted to win 2020 at the state level. But Trump beating Clinton changed all that. It made them lose their fucking minds and forget their long term goal.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The same thing happened to them in 2002, when Hastert survived despite Bush being unpopular

Wut? Bush was on a post-9/11 high in 2002. That is why the GOP gained seats, which is very unusual in a midterm.

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– Piroko -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

That's the narrative, yes, but it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

On a precinct by precinct level, if the 2002 congressional elections had been held with the district assignments of the 1990 census, Bush would have lost Congress.

The war high had nothing to do it with, the entire victory was through the redistricting of the 2000 census.

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– MargarineMongoose -2 points 4 years ago +2 / -4

Redistricting doesn't matter you fucking mouth breather. You showing up to a polling station doesn't matter, your vote doesn't fucking count anymore.

You're too fucking stupid to be anything other than controlled opposition. Get the fuck out of here.

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– Piroko 0 points 4 years ago +2 / -2

Redistricting doesn't matter

Actually it does, because redistricting decides which ballots count for who.

The democrats are very good at making ballots appear, yes. At certain precincts.

And if all those precincts are bunched together to contribute to exactly one representative, they can ballot stuff as much as they want, and it won't fucking matter towards the actual composition of the house of representatives.

You're too fucking stupid

Well, I'm rich and statistically speaking you're probably not so... what does that say about you?

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– AntonioOfVenice -2 points 4 years ago +1 / -3

Wait, you're telling people that they shouldn't vote to keep radical kneelers out of office, and it's other people who are the controlled opposition?

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