Why would the establishment be on the brink of disaster? They wield the power of deep state, media, big tech, wall street - all Biden shills or Biden admin.
From the Melian dialogues, power does not need to "legitimize" itself, it just does.
Meaningful resistance against this stacked deck is years away.
By that time all the big backers would have already made their money, flexed on the plebs, then retire to Spain or something. All the smaller useful idiots can stay behind and face the music. Mission accomplished.
Why would the establishment be on the brink of disaster? They wield the power of deep state, media, big tech, wall street - all Biden shills or Biden admin.
And those institutions haven't been this unpopular and this uninfluential, maybe ever. Certainly not all at the same time. The power of the establishment has seriously waned.
From the Melian dialogues, power does not need to "legitimize" itself, it just does.
That's not the same thing. The powerful do not try to engage in Melian dialogues because it guarantees resistance. It is an arrogant threat made at a victim. The reason the Athenian commander made that negotiation, is because he was backed by a fleet and invasion force that he asserted the people of Melos could not resist effectively. That is not the definition of all power, not unless you intend to be shot in the face at the first sign of trouble.
The Melian dialogue is a hostile act between a warring party, and an ambushed target. If you don't back it up, it'll cost you everything. That's why you don't do it unless it works. If you underestimate your foe, it kills you. It's like walking up to a man in the street and saying "I've got a gun in my pocket and I'm going to kill you when I finish counting: 3...". If you picked the wrong person, you won't make it to 2.
A Melian dialogue is an act of War.
Meaningful resistance against this stacked deck is years away.
That's a defeatist and ridiculous sentiment. Meaningful resistance always exists so long as you are prepared to engage in it. Your issue is about what you consider "meaningful" and what you consider a valid price for that resistance. On my part, I consider the price for that resistance to be low compared to the consequences of being trapped in the same sphere of influence as the Leftists when they start purging themselves. There were no rightists in the Khmer Rouge's killing fields.
By that time all the big backers would have already made their money, flexed on the plebs, then retire to Spain or something.
They would never retire to Spain. That day never comes. They never stop, and they're not trying to prove anything to the plebs. This is about preserving what they have and the gains they promised themselves in their fantasies.
And those institutions haven't been this unpopular and this uninfluential, maybe ever. Certainly not all at the same time. The power of the establishment has seriously waned.
It's massively popular to 80 million Americans. Only 74 million Americans distrust them.
The point is, I considered the chance of winning the conflict.
The deep state/ex-Obama security people now work for CNN & MSNBC, the media being their lying useful idiots. Deep state then possibly re-used their CIA regime change bullshit like "red mirage" or Noam Eisner's "color revolution" to win.
To win meaningful resistance you need to overcome:
big tech censorship (NYpost, youtube)
big finance censorship (https://archive.vn/cmzTL
breitbart
Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong Sounds Alarm over Cryptocurrency Rule that Could Empower Financial Censors
by ALLUM BOKHARI 13 Dec 20201)
big funding (Tom Steyer/Refuse Facism, Koch bros NOT funding Trump but Soros Dems)
deep state spy shit
organized paramilitary - antifa - which the FBI and DHS tell us are unimportant, I wonder why.
ancient organized paramilitary like professor Bill Ayers of Weather Underground fame
On the Trump team there's enthusiasim but little power. You need to be as slick, effective and loyal as the corrupt Bush admin and his pocket judges, but I don't see it on the Trump team today.
Proud Boys are a drinking club, not backed by Bill Ayers or deep state antifa simps.
Unless I'm missing something, they aren't there yet, so I say it needs time for the Trump side to get better.
The "Resistance" antifa, lying media and bamboozled public, didn't grow on a tree, they were nurtured by time, money and simps. And so will the Resistance to the Resistance.
The Killing Fields were stopped by an invasion of a larger power, Vietnam, tipping the scales to the defenders. Maybe it takes years, months, who knows.
They would never retire to Spain. That day never comes.
The neolibs can run to Spain while leaving the dogmatic progressives behind.
There's a bunch of things in your post that I could address, but I'd rather stick to the heart of the matter. You're still clamoring about how strong institutional power is, I'm denying that, but I don't think you're getting me here: It's never been this week.
For God's sake, look at your name. The Progressive Corporate media has been the enemy of the people since Pulitzer helped start the Spanish-American War. The guy who's name was applied to the highest award for journalism ever. Which was given to the guy your named after, who was an active spy and activist for the Soviet Union, who intentionally ignored mass slaughter. And was well-respected for decades.
The power of all of these institutions was more than you could possibly believe. There was a reason why LBJ was concerned about Walter Cronkite's opinion. That's the kind of sway they held. You're worried about financial censorship, but FDR criminalized gold/silver for 40 years from a single executive order. You're worried about Deep State spy shit, but have you ever heard of J. Edgar Hoover? You're worried about Big Funding, but do you realize how the Fed was created? You're worried about tech censorship, but do you remember when the FCC killed pirate radio (to this very day)?
Yes, sure, Trump doesn't have much institutional power. He's had to build it himself, effectively from scratch.
This is a revolution. The revolutionaries a plucky little fighters who don't have much institutional power, but it doesn't mean they just lose. They just haven't won yet.
Yes, there's a longer war ahead for all of us, but the institutions have never been this weak before, an it looks like their collapse is not gonna take 50 years. I doubt they make it even 20. I can't tell you what 2030 looks like, the acceleration of their collapse has outpaced all historical norms.
The neolibs can run to Spain while leaving the dogmatic progressives behind.
Dude, Spain is like Progressive Saudi Arabia. You're not going to avoid any dogmatic progressives there.
If the institutions are weak, we would have seen at least someone fired or Clapper and Brennan thrown in prison.
Biden doesn't care what the media says, just like Obama's journolist, because the media are Dem shills.
Besides, Hoover's FBI today only bother to infiltrate right wing militias and 4chan.
And at the moment, the Big Guys are strong while the Trumpers are weak. I'm not saying don't fight or become blackpilled, I'm saying know the enemy and the cards they hold.
Dude, Spain is like Progressive Saudi Arabia. You're not going to avoid any dogmatic progressives there.
Why would the establishment be on the brink of disaster? They wield the power of deep state, media, big tech, wall street - all Biden shills or Biden admin.
From the Melian dialogues, power does not need to "legitimize" itself, it just does.
Meaningful resistance against this stacked deck is years away.
By that time all the big backers would have already made their money, flexed on the plebs, then retire to Spain or something. All the smaller useful idiots can stay behind and face the music. Mission accomplished.
And those institutions haven't been this unpopular and this uninfluential, maybe ever. Certainly not all at the same time. The power of the establishment has seriously waned.
That's not the same thing. The powerful do not try to engage in Melian dialogues because it guarantees resistance. It is an arrogant threat made at a victim. The reason the Athenian commander made that negotiation, is because he was backed by a fleet and invasion force that he asserted the people of Melos could not resist effectively. That is not the definition of all power, not unless you intend to be shot in the face at the first sign of trouble.
The Melian dialogue is a hostile act between a warring party, and an ambushed target. If you don't back it up, it'll cost you everything. That's why you don't do it unless it works. If you underestimate your foe, it kills you. It's like walking up to a man in the street and saying "I've got a gun in my pocket and I'm going to kill you when I finish counting: 3...". If you picked the wrong person, you won't make it to 2.
A Melian dialogue is an act of War.
That's a defeatist and ridiculous sentiment. Meaningful resistance always exists so long as you are prepared to engage in it. Your issue is about what you consider "meaningful" and what you consider a valid price for that resistance. On my part, I consider the price for that resistance to be low compared to the consequences of being trapped in the same sphere of influence as the Leftists when they start purging themselves. There were no rightists in the Khmer Rouge's killing fields.
They would never retire to Spain. That day never comes. They never stop, and they're not trying to prove anything to the plebs. This is about preserving what they have and the gains they promised themselves in their fantasies.
It's massively popular to 80 million Americans. Only 74 million Americans distrust them.
The point is, I considered the chance of winning the conflict.
The deep state/ex-Obama security people now work for CNN & MSNBC, the media being their lying useful idiots. Deep state then possibly re-used their CIA regime change bullshit like "red mirage" or Noam Eisner's "color revolution" to win.
To win meaningful resistance you need to overcome:
big tech censorship (NYpost, youtube)
big finance censorship (https://archive.vn/cmzTL breitbart Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong Sounds Alarm over Cryptocurrency Rule that Could Empower Financial Censors by ALLUM BOKHARI 13 Dec 20201)
big funding (Tom Steyer/Refuse Facism, Koch bros NOT funding Trump but Soros Dems)
deep state spy shit
organized paramilitary - antifa - which the FBI and DHS tell us are unimportant, I wonder why.
ancient organized paramilitary like professor Bill Ayers of Weather Underground fame
On the Trump team there's enthusiasim but little power. You need to be as slick, effective and loyal as the corrupt Bush admin and his pocket judges, but I don't see it on the Trump team today.
Proud Boys are a drinking club, not backed by Bill Ayers or deep state antifa simps.
Unless I'm missing something, they aren't there yet, so I say it needs time for the Trump side to get better.
The "Resistance" antifa, lying media and bamboozled public, didn't grow on a tree, they were nurtured by time, money and simps. And so will the Resistance to the Resistance.
The Killing Fields were stopped by an invasion of a larger power, Vietnam, tipping the scales to the defenders. Maybe it takes years, months, who knows.
The neolibs can run to Spain while leaving the dogmatic progressives behind.
There's a bunch of things in your post that I could address, but I'd rather stick to the heart of the matter. You're still clamoring about how strong institutional power is, I'm denying that, but I don't think you're getting me here: It's never been this week.
For God's sake, look at your name. The Progressive Corporate media has been the enemy of the people since Pulitzer helped start the Spanish-American War. The guy who's name was applied to the highest award for journalism ever. Which was given to the guy your named after, who was an active spy and activist for the Soviet Union, who intentionally ignored mass slaughter. And was well-respected for decades.
The power of all of these institutions was more than you could possibly believe. There was a reason why LBJ was concerned about Walter Cronkite's opinion. That's the kind of sway they held. You're worried about financial censorship, but FDR criminalized gold/silver for 40 years from a single executive order. You're worried about Deep State spy shit, but have you ever heard of J. Edgar Hoover? You're worried about Big Funding, but do you realize how the Fed was created? You're worried about tech censorship, but do you remember when the FCC killed pirate radio (to this very day)?
Yes, sure, Trump doesn't have much institutional power. He's had to build it himself, effectively from scratch.
This is a revolution. The revolutionaries a plucky little fighters who don't have much institutional power, but it doesn't mean they just lose. They just haven't won yet.
Yes, there's a longer war ahead for all of us, but the institutions have never been this weak before, an it looks like their collapse is not gonna take 50 years. I doubt they make it even 20. I can't tell you what 2030 looks like, the acceleration of their collapse has outpaced all historical norms.
Dude, Spain is like Progressive Saudi Arabia. You're not going to avoid any dogmatic progressives there.
If the institutions are weak, we would have seen at least someone fired or Clapper and Brennan thrown in prison.
Biden doesn't care what the media says, just like Obama's journolist, because the media are Dem shills.
Besides, Hoover's FBI today only bother to infiltrate right wing militias and 4chan.
And at the moment, the Big Guys are strong while the Trumpers are weak. I'm not saying don't fight or become blackpilled, I'm saying know the enemy and the cards they hold.
You can avoid the American ones.