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Friendly reminder that the founders of Ben & Jerry ice cream are Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield
posted 5 years ago by BlazeHeatnix832 5 years ago by BlazeHeatnix832 +78 / -0

Recently got a temp ban from KiA2 for very mildly acknowledging this fact. Just testing the waters here.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Exactly by what method have you determined that your position is the 'rule'? I'm sure not any kind of rigorous analysis, but the common confirmation bias. I am glad that you are open-minded enough to recognize Weinstein and Heying as good guys, despite the fact that they're not exactly right-wingers.

But there's more. Way more. It is likely that Jews are over-represented among right-wing/anti-identitarian advocates, though since most Jews are leftists, more on the leftist side. Just to give you some examples I can easily cite from the top of my head.

Economics: Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises. Soviet dissidents: Nathan Sharansky and others (a grossly disproportionate share of Soviet dissidents were Jews, in some estimates 40%)

Rather than vilifying all Jews for the opinions of a faction, how about we support the good Jews and oppose the bad ones. Or rather, support good people and oppose bad ones regardless of ethnicity. Exactly what do you hope to accomplish by making it about one group vs another?

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– exilde 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

You always misunderstand. I can simultaneously appreciate what Einstein did for humanity, while also disagreeing with his advocacy for Socialism. The sticking point here is that I don't believe that the benefit is worth the cost. Short term gains in scientific understanding for long term social problems aren't an equitable exchange, to me.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I actually agree with that last part. But I am not sure how you hope to avoid it.

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– exilde 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

For me, I just advocate for ethnonationalism. It should be an idea on the table.

There are large swathes of the US that just don't have a Jewish population to speak of. Or black. I don't think the US has a lot longer. In those places, ethnonationalism in an already ethnically homogeneous area should be a valid path. It shouldn't be wrongthink to at least consider it when the time comes to reconstitute.

I'm not trying to round up Jews and stick them in ovens, believe it or not.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

For me, I just advocate for ethnonationalism. It should be an idea on the table.

I agree. But ethnonationalism should be without hatred for or vilification of other groups. I think it's beyond dispute that the most homogeneous societies are also the most pleasant, crime-free and have the highest level of social trust.

I'm not trying to round up Jews and stick them in ovens, believe it or not.

The issue with a lot of these 'noticers' is that they are very vague about what they want. Apparently, just to complain that Jeeeeews are our misfortune. But that does not seem to be very productive, even from their perspective. Because if Jews are one's misfortune, then surely one would want to do something about it beyond just whining about it and annoying the hell out of everyone on KiA2.

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