You need to get off reddit. Unless you intend to stay on there just to call these crybully psychopaths faggots, there’s no point in engaging in discourse because you aren’t going to be exchanging ideas, you’re going to be subject to a whole range of bad faith and abuse to grind you down. They aren’t hypocrites by circumstance, they’re hypocrites by design.

So, on the Cyberpunk sub, I noticed people were talking about Abby for absolutely no reason other than to shit on gamers. So, I decided to waste some of my precious time arguing with these brainlets.

Yes, I realize this is insignificant compared to the election shit going on right now, but I wanted to vent with some like-minded people.

You made some great points

Here is my pasta in a pasta-able format if you want to nail them on pedo shit:

The Tavistock Clinic is doing mass medical tranny [experimentation on children](https://archive.fo/3n4NB). In Germany, Dr Kentler [gave foster kids to pedos](https://archive.fo/PgyRr), and green movement founder Daniel Cohn-Bendit bragged about a [child sex daycare](https://archive.fo/Zzs4a). Globohomo's chomopomo prophets openly talk about their love of pedos:

>These days, especially in America, boy-love is not only scandalous and criminal, but somehow in bad taste. On the evening news, one sees handcuffed teachers, priests and Boy Scout leaders hustled into police vans. Therapists call them maladjusted, emotionally immature. But beauty has its own laws, inconsistent with Christian morality. As a woman, I feel free to protest that men today are pilloried for something that was rational and honorable in Greece at the height of its civilization.

-**Camille Paglia**, *Sexual Personae*

>any child old enough to decide whether or not she or he wants to eat spinach, play with trucks or wear shoes is old enough to decide whether or not she or he wants to run around naked in the sun, masturbate sit in somebody's lap or engage in sexual activity.

-**Pat Califia**, cited in *Sexual Investigations* by Soble

>This notion of consent is a trap, in any case. What is sure is that the legal form of an intersexual consent is nonsense. No one signs a contract before making love... When we say that children are 'consenting' in these cases, all we intend to say is this: in any case, there was no violence, or organized manipulation in order to wrench out of them affective or erotic relations.

-**Guy Hocquenghem**, *Sexual Morality and the Law*, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws

>Like communists and homosexuals in the 1950s, boylovers are so stigmatized that it is difficult to find defenders for their civil liberties, let alone for their erotic orientation.

-**Gayle Rubin**, *Thinking Sex*, widely regarded as a founding text of Gay/Lesbian studies and Queer Theory

>But pederasty is probably historically the most common form of homosexuality in Western culture, as well as many other cultures. It exists in all cultures, and in some is considered the norm, even today (e.g., Iran, among the Pashtuns). To label it 'child abuse' or 'child molestation' is preposterous and stupid.

-**David Thorstad**, [*rage email*](https://archive.fo/uf1x), president of both the Gay Activists Alliance and Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights in NYC in the 1970s, founder of the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), compared being a pederast in the US with being "a Jew in Nazi Germany"

>It is not necessary to figure parent-child incest as a unilateral impingement on the child by the parent, since whatever impingement takes place will also be registered within the sphere of fantasy. In fact, to understand the violation that incest can be and also to distinguish between those occasions of incest that are violation and those that are not ­it is unnecessary to figure the body of the child exclusively as a surface imposed upon from the outside... The reification of the child’s body as passive surface would thus constitute, at a theoretical level, a further deprivation of the child: the deprivation of psychic life.

-**Judith Butler**, *Undoing Gender*, most influential living gender theorist. She sees incest taboo as working towards heteronormativity and asks that prohibition on incest be rethought to prevent the "violation" that is heteronormativity.

>If I were to see the case of a boy aged ten or eleven who's intensely erotically attracted toward a man in his twenties or thirties, if the relationship is totally mutual, and the bonding is genuinely totally mutual ... then I would not call it pathological in any way.

-**John Money**, *Paidika: The Journal of Paedophilia*, psychologist who forced a boy to be a girl and get humped by his twin brother after a botched circumcision. Both of the Reimer brothers committed suicide.

>But, after all, listening to a child, hearing him speak, hearing him explain what his relations actually were with someone, adult or not, provided one listens with enough sympathy, must allow one to establish more or less what degree of violence if any was used or what degree of consent was given. And to assume that a child is incapable of explaining what happened and was incapable of giving his consent are two abuses that are intolerable, quite unacceptable.

-**Michel Foucault**, *The Danger of Child Sexuality*, Pope of Chomopomo, most cited academic in grievance studies, signer of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws

Other notable globohomo clergy:

**Henry "Harry" Hay**, pioneer in US Gay rights, founder of the first sustained gay rights group in the US. Supported NAMBLA (North American Man/Boy Love Association) and marched in the pride parade with a "NAMBLA walks with me" shirt.

**Magnus Hirschfeld** founder in 1897 of an institute deemed "the first advocacy for homosexual and transgender rights", considered homosexual "ephebophiles" as something common and nonpathological.

**Simone de Beauvoir**, lesbian feminist superhero second to none, of "every woman is homosexual by nature" fame, was one of the signers of the 1977 petition against age of consent laws demanding "recognition of the right of children and adolescents to maintain relationships with persons of their choice". It was in reaction to three men being taken to trial for grooming boys and girls under 15 years of age, but allegedly "without violence".

**Harvey Milk**, the first openly gay elected official in California, of Oscar winning biopic about his life, and has a Navy ship named after him. Milk took advantage of his work with at-risk youth to groom at least one 16yo runaway Jack Galen McKinley who had substance abuse problems and lived on the streets of NYC (where the age of consent was 17). Jack would end up comitting suicide years later.

**tl;dr** Not fucking children is somehow child abuse.

these people are irritating as shit and never have any sense of what is reality and what isn't. There's also actual studies that have proved that loli does not make someone a "child abuser" anymore than violent video games would make someone violent. And if they want to go after pedos, they should be concentrating more on actual cases, instead of wasting everyone's time and resources going after drawings and trying to curtail freedom of art. But a lot of times the people going after art are projecting and are the actual pedos themselves its happened many many times.

Notice how he couldn't actually answer you when you pointed out that he's basically calling attractive women like Megan Fox in real life "fetish objects" lol.

And why do these people have a problem with fetishes? especially if its drawings? And they want to pretend they aren't acting like 1980's christian soccer moms?

Do not reason or argue with leftists, insult, belittle and humiliate them.

It's how leftists "argue". It's not "debate" it's a communist struggle session. No reason is involved.

It is designed to humiliate and be superior to the subject. Albert Maltz suffered the same thing.

Better to tell them they are pedos and rapists and how Cuckmann's fucking Abby on Soystation.

So many y'all's there

I'm sorry, please remind me which side is supportive of child strip shows? Child drag strip shows? Teaching sexual education to fucking pre schoolers??