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SupremeReader 17 points ago +17 / -0

It's a very primal urge, I need to smash this fucking thing

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

So you can see them being as you say "terrorized" by the shelling in their trenches in 2016: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DAo7go-4l0g

Comrade Patrick is indeed scared at very least, which is okay because his friends were being pelted with mortars moderately hard. I'd prefer not to be there myself, it's fine.

And here's a Russian assault being repelled at a checkpoint in Marinka, a city just outside Donetsk city: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_gzM0QKWEeU

Russia still didn't take it btw, to this day. That video could've been well filmed yesterday.

The trenches and the minefields made it while world of a difference from elsewhere where Ukraine didn't prepare because of the leadership's criminal pacifism. Especially in the absurdly narrow connection with Crimea that was manned by only border guards. They could've easily turned it into a modern Mannerheim Line.

Now, Comrade Patrick actually in Donetsk city for a comparison, where as you see the "terror" of "shelling" and "cluster bombing" is absolute as barely anyone dares to make a quick dash from the crumbling shelters in the ruins of this burned out city full of shallow graves: https://youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/search?query=Parade%20Donetsk%20

Or you were just lied to you, and you believed for some reason, it doesn't matter, but it's time to accept it like a man. Can you?

Btw Ukraine didn't allow the Independence Day festivities few days ago, because of an actual threat of bombardment. Which didn't materialize (in the capital), but this is how it looks like when such threat exists.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's fucking funny how you gaslight me "Russia isn't a threat to anyone" while Russia's killing people like 200 km from me right now.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, they were. They could've been evacuated, but chose to stay and defend. When MacArthur left, he promised he will return, and personally did. They didn't have to do it, it was a major detour on the way Saipan -> Iwo Jima > Okinawa. Did you ever notice how and wonder why much the war generation Filipinos loved America and hated the Japs in equal measures? If not, here's why: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43726532-rampage

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

They weren't useling artillery "to shell Donetsk" too. I've been observing this conflict, so please stop trying to gaslight me.

I can show you what they were shelling if you want. (I already told you: trenches and isolated military outposts.)

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Vlasov was a model Soviet general who became the commander of the pro-German Russian Liberation Army of his fellow Red aAemy defectors. In 1945 they changed sides and saved Prague, after the silly Czechs began joyfully exterminating local German civilians and wounded soldiers from hospitals (like hanging them upside down and roasting them slowly in the streets) and thus attracted the attention of the SS formations massed nearby, before the Soviet tanks did arrive. The rescued Czechs then handed them over to the Soviets for their trouble, and resumed torturing the Germans. Lol.

General Anders, man, this is like THE Polish story of WWII. Like that, the Warsaw Uprising, and Auschwitz-Birkenau, if to choose 3 definitive stories. From Siberia to Monte Casino and beyond.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Imperialism - when the Russian Empire (that's in the name) occupied the land.

Colonialism - that's how the ethnic Russians replaced the Ukrainians (dead or deported).

And replaced the Poles too, for that matter (massive deportation actions 1940-41, to Kazakhstan, then population transfer in 1945-47).

Massive numbers of Poles died in these deportations. Half million at very least, perhaps well over million. Many of those who survived were rescued by Anders (including masses of women and children whom he took on his epic odyssey, and most of his soldiers were middle aged or older because the Soviets have already conscirpted the young men).

Some of Poland's national heroes have CONVERTED TO ISLAM just so they could fight Russia in the Ottoman service. Even the country's greatest poet died in exile in Istanbul.

He was ethnically Jewish Lithuanian btw. His most celebrated poem begins with "Lithuania, o my fatherland!". Every Polish child learns into recite it solemnly.

Man you know just so little lmao

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

They want to smear the Poles, but they surely don't want to smear the Ukrainians!

No, the Polish Police Battalions were real enough.

But the article does smear the Holy Cross Brigade, it wasn't "accepted into the SS" at all, it just moved west with the defeated German columns to Czechoslovakia, where they just like the forces of Vlasov turned against the Germans again. There they actually liberated a concentration camp for women, just before reaching the Americans.

So anyway, let me cite the so curiously on-and-off reliable Russians:

In the spring of 1943, with the beginning of the extermination of the Polish population of Volyn by bandits of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), the German authorities formed Polish police battalions. They were supposed to replace the Ukrainian police battalions in Volyn, which were part of the Governor-General and went over to the UPA. Poles joined the 102, 103, 104 mixed police battalions, as well as the police battalion of the 27 Volyn infantry division. In addition, 2 Polish police battalion was created - 107 (450 people) and 202 (600 people). Together with German troops and police, they fought with UPA units. Also, the Polish police battalions interacted with Polish self-defense units and participated in a punitive operation against the West Russian population. Police battalions were subordinate to the SS command in Volyn and in Belarusian Polesie.

Polish police were dressed in uniforms of the German military police. Armed with the first Soviet captured weapon, then received German carbines, submachine guns and light machine guns.

At the beginning of the 1944 year, soldiers of the 107-th Polish police battalion went over to the side of the Home Army. In May 202, soldiers of the 1944 battalion became part of the SS troops, and in August 1944 the battalion was defeated and dispersed in battles with the Red Army in the Warsaw area.

(Their machine translation got really bad at the end.)

As were the Polish resistance's ethnic massacres of the Ukrainians.

And of the Belarusians, and the Jews, and of course the German civilians (and not just locals or colonialists, there were even terrorist bombings in cities like Berlin).

And as mentioned by the Russians, the massacres of the Russians (who supported the Soviet Partisans).

WWII was a super fun time!

Ukrainian recorded history is over 1,000 years old. Longer then Polish actually.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

You still don't understand whatbhappened there, or maybe you pretend to spout stupid slogans. What about killing Germans and Polish collaborators (Polish Police Battalions, I'll give you a Russian link because why not: https://en.topwar.ru/162291-kak-poljaki-sluzhili-tretemu-rejhu.html)? Good now?

What country are you from, and what country do you reside in? Let's how "real" they are.

Whatever is this nation that America's been trying to to destroy for generations? If it's the Soviet nation, then good but they need to work harder. Sovietism must be exterminated, over 100 years due.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

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Can't wait to hear like "I l-like nationalism man b-but they're just too nationalist, and look they're against an empire, the only good nationalism is when you don't oppose a conquest by any empire that wants your national identity eradicated and have killed millions of your people in the past okay, also they're oppressing a traditional godcult of Lenin which is just rude".

Or maybe I'll get it through to your skull through that Vatnik-2 system helmet. Who knows? Excitement!

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Whatever "outside Europe" has to do with the imperialism and colonialism in Poland and Ukraine? Especially with the notion of "Borderland" that you're so interested in supposedly?

Or with Russia, including how they genocided the fuck out of half of the Caucasus (and Circassia especially) and how it partially backfired on them (in the mountains), so even the butcher Suvorov failed with his methods.

Btw there were thousands of Polish conscripts who deserted and defected to the Caucasians. Even Shamil's personal guard was made of Polish horsemen. And there was a plot for the Polish exiles in France to land in Circassia to the rescue.

So, are you done with everything other in this thread? Suppose you at least did read it.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

They killed millions of German prisoners. And ritually (after their typical "trials") executed many thousands, but usually without any trial. Just in captivity, or upon surrendering. Just in one city they killed thousands of wounded Germans with flamethrowers.

Do you know the story of General Vlasov and his army? The entire story.

Or do you know how General Anders would welcome the former Ukrainian SS soldiers? Among any other remotely Polish defectors, which is how his army grew so much (his emissaries were touring all the Allies camps for prisoners to rescue). Do you know his story at all? The "Polish Moses"? He also helped organize the "Stern Gang" to fight ghe British imperialists while in Palestine, among so many things.

I guess you're happy the West isn't betraying the Eastern Europeans to placate the Beast in Moscow this time round.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thia "democratically elected leader" has 0.0% support in Ukraine. This is why Russia's not doing anything with him, and never tried to do anything with him whatsoever, because even all the seps hate him too. He's universally hated by everyone there, including his own former supporters, just everybody with no exceptions. If they brought him back, their own puppets in the People's Republics would be furious and would be demanding to let them publicly execute him for how he's betrayed and abandoned them when he secretly fled with stolen money in the dead of night without stopping on the way to Moscow. They would make a festival out of his execution.

While all the 4 other presidents in Ukraine's history (including Kuchma who had once chosen Yanuk as his successor) stand united firmly against Russia. Literally with guns in their hands, even if symbolically.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

You done with this convo?

Thought you would enlighten me how awesome was imperialism for all the conquered peoples all over Europe.

Starting with us because why not.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

Okay, I was talking when thinking of "eastern" Europe (Germany and further east). The British (Highland Scotland, Ireland even more) and French of Napoleon (like in Spain, where we participated in the atrocities without defecting to the nationalists, unlike our defections in Haiti where the black nationalists recognised as "the white niggers of Europe" that was a compliment) empires were also fucking awful in the "western" Europe.

Oh man, imperialism, so "very good for the subject populations".

Also fuck the Swedish empire, just the fucking worst.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

The Russian empire was most bloody and genocidal in the entire Europe, rivaled only by the Ottoman. After took the left-bank Warsaw during the final battle of Kościuszko Insurrection they massacred the entire Praga district, 20,000 people (the bastard Suvorov). Among the 3 empires that abolished Poland, Moscow was most crudely brutal and economically exploitive, German was most efficient in many ways including Germanization (and wasn't ruthless until WWI and the scorched ground strategy shared with Russia), and Austrian was remembered quite sympathically.

Ukraine didn't bomb Donetsk, or anything else, with anything since like August of 2014, when they've totally stopped using combat aviation at all (until February 24 of this year).

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

America even let the Phillipines go. Which was agreed before WWII broke Western imperialism, and after first defeating the Filipinos completely. And before this happened as scheluded, defended them extremely hard (tens of thousands of Americans died either defending or liberating them, killing half million Japs).

And Canada means "settlement", and Brazil was named like a mythical island, and Ireland is in English (and they officially speak English), so fucking what?

I love my fellow white folx.

RUSSIANS AREN'T WHITE

Just kidding.

Some are.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was talking about https://culture.pl/en/article/slavery-vs-serfdom-or-was-poland-a-colonial-empire

We had a chance to set things right just after WWI (which didn't end it here until the 1920s but so to speak) and we fucked it up.

With our petty bullshit we even turned the Lithuanians against Poland, so much they participated in the next partition of Poland in 1939 (the Soviet "gift" to them, shortly before the Soviets swallowed Lithuania and commited their own genocide on the Balts, other than the Prussians which came later).

At least now finally we present one bloc of brotherly nations against Moscow. With no territorial claim against each other whatsoever. Fucking finally.

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SupremeReader 1 point ago +1 / -0

And if you're interested about the Catechism thing: https://ank.gov.pl/wolyn/ideologia.htm (comp translate it)

I told you they were fucking hardcore. You can't be more extreme, it's impossible. The WWII Germans weren't that hardcore, they were pan-Germanic and inclusive in various ways, they were just more imperialistic).

Imperialism is good!

Yeah yeah, shut the fuck up. It was the Polish imperialism that fucked over our relations. Including the most widespread slavery (by the Polonized nobles, with Jewish help, and with absolutely retarded attempts to turn the Cossacks into more serfs too) and literal colonialism.

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