These are practically the same idea just from a slightly different perspective. In both cases you, the player, are an aspect of the godhead made manifest in Mundus
Wilfred was pretty fackin hilarious m8
Conversation prompt:
Is Lorkhan not actually “missing”, but incarnating as each game’s player character? Interesting thoughts from the video’s comments
I have a theory... You, the player are Lorkhan. Much like in Morrowind, the player is written to have the ability to reincarnate (save/recall). Every game there after, you have this ability. This video mentions the belief Lorkhan is forced to live countless mortal lives. It would make sense if the player is Lorkhan, but doesn't know it. I would love to see something like this in an Elder Scrolls game being fleshed out.
The idea that the player is Lorkhan also becomes meta when you consider the "one was made to satisfy the other" text. Mundus, the world of the Elder Scrolls, was made to satisfy the Heart of Lorkhan, the beating desire of players to experience a new world.
Well, I’ve got maybe 5-10 hours played across the last 2 decades but I’ve never dived in and played it the same way I played Oblivion and Skyrim. I kept waiting for the Morroblivion then Skywind/MorrowRim (lol idek which of those are real) mods which never seemed to materialize, just because I was always put off by the early game clunkiness of playing a game where I swung my sword through an enemy but miss because of a near-zero chance to hit. TES has never had great combat but as you go back to the older games it becomes more and more annoying to me. I’ve even got Daggerfall somewhere on my computer from a giveaway, I don’t think I’ve run the program once lol.
Great stories though
The stand-out part to me was the idea of treating “the focus of a people on past glory versus future greatness” as an axis of analysis that can be applied to any group or person
The in-universe stuff is interesting in its own right, the idea of “the monomyth reflected differently in vastly different cultures” is quite intriguing, and reminiscent of the real world notions of the monomyth and Jungian/Campbellian Archetypal Hero. The Warp in the West and other dragonbreaks making multiple truths true is another interesting idea which ties into it.
I know it’s a bit of a weird ask to present the community with an hour long video about obscure lore from a series most here probably don’t have much hope for in the future, but I think there are a bunch of interesting nuggets in there that even people who don’t really know much about TES can get out of it. I’ve never even played the first three but admittedly I’m the kind of person to enjoy reading some wiki articles from a game even if I’ll never play it.
That’s funny, I thought you were making basically the opposite point, so thanks for clarifying
That’s a fair enough angle I can understand. Basically just streamers with privacy or some other personal concern now have an avenue to try to compete in this modern world. That’s whatever. And while I do see the same kind of issues across streaming in general (i.e. simping and pandering), they seem really pronounced here. I’m not totally sure why it feels that way. Maybe the use of the avatar is making me see it as inherently less “genuine”. Then again I’m the kinda guy who just can’t wrap my head around donating to 99.99% of streamers in general, but that’s just me. The few I can somewhat understand are the ones who produce something with some modicum of artistic or other merit. Independent journalists, Sam Hyde, those kinds of channels.
Sure, like I said in my original question there are conceivable reasons why someone would want to be a streamer without necessarily linking their real face/identity to it. I get that much. What I don’t get is the fandom. It’s turning grown men into something more unrecognizable than fucking kpop fans. And it’s not even like “oh we’re getting a real glimpse at who this girl is, she’s 100% genuine and the anime avatar is just for personal reasons” - I guaran-fucking-tee these chicks, “corporate” or not, are not being honest about themselves and their lives. For the corporate ones, it’s probably written into their contracts that they can’t been seen in public with their boyfriend/husband, much less discuss their existence on stream.
Explain it to me please, how is this any different than being a pokimane simp but almost objectively gayer? I’m open to changing my opinion I’m just letting you know where it currently stands
SKYNET-CHAN goes active
i can fix her
Best one I’ve seen is “anecdata”. But frankly his opinion could have come to him in a dream for all I care, he’s basically the only one who’s shared his view openly in response to my questions, everyone else is just voting on his comment or telling me I don’t get it without telling me how I’m not getting it
A disgusting potential that had crossed my mind too. Given how lucrative the whole thing is, and how artificial it is at its core, I would be more surprised to learn it isn't happening relatively often
Almost more horrifyingly, it seems the draw is “parasocial anime girl feelings to relieve loneliness”
The whole thing feels like it’s one step away from “ai girlfriend”
What’s the name of the numba 1 idol (performance/celebrity) magazine, so I can look at some covers. Because if they both involve young attractive girls in skimpy clothes, but some of them are pretending to sing, I don’t see much of a gap between the two. Much like “the pussycat dolls” or Sports Illustrated swimsuit editions, you can dress up soft core porn all you like, that doesn’t change the fundamental draw of the product
to summarize vtubing as a whole, it's wrestling using anime avatars.
Huh…that’s a view I’ve never seen articulated before, I can kind of see what you’re saying, based on what little I know of things (also that kind of explains more the “manager” angle - they can set up “storylines” between the girls or whatever)… interesting to say the least but is that really the full story?
What is your definition of thot streaming?
Basically, any time a woman streamer uses the fact she is a woman (explicitly or implicitly) to manipulate her male viewers into donating. This could be as basic as doing titty streams in hot tubs like used to plague twitch, or it could be a chick who always wears sweaters but emotionally manipulates her viewers with any of an infinite number of tactics (flirting for donos, grooming simps/white knights, leading on whale simps in dms, whatever)
is an extension of idol culture
Is that not basically like saying “is an extension of soft core porn culture”? Idol culture, like vtubing, is quite foreign to me, but my understanding is it is basically just soft core / “respectable” porn, and the girls often go into real porn after they age out. Correct me if I’m wrong please
Idealized Girl Syndrome
That’s kinda the vibe I got from what little I’ve seen of the phenomena. Like some kind of “irl waifu”, and since you can’t see her you’re obviously going to project onto her aspects of your “idealized girl”.
ouuuuu she plays vidya and talks about manga and anime, maybe if I superchat just the right thing she’ll let me show her I’m husbando material
Then you add on top of that this weird “management” (pimp) system and it starts to just feel like twitch thots with extra steps
Why do people like vtubers?
How are they different from normal youtubers?
I don’t understand why they exist (other than perhaps “shyness”), and I doubly don’t understand the fan culture that’s exploded around them. Are they supposed to be “cutesy”/“wholesome” twitch thots or something else entirely?
I remember when there was that big pro-vaccine push on reddit years back before Covid started.
The mod of r/, and then c/conspiracies documented this psyop very well, and quite presciently, as he started noticing (and calling attention to) this trend over half a decade before covid was deployed:
https://communities.win/c/Conspiracies/p/12kFGRg1bN/heres-nearly-a-decade-of-oc-thre/c
I think I’m making the point that “it’s neither ”side”, but a manipulation from the top->down affecting everyone”
Yes, but how many on the right think trump is literally the second coming (or, if they don’t take it that far, then just a “white hat operation to expose the satanic pedophiles”)?
It’s just a silly game to play that doesn’t get us anywhere - most everyone believes retarded shit in some form or another
That view just doesn’t make sense imo, “the left” (i.e. the population that “leans left”) aren’t the same as the people who are using them as useful idiots. Think of it like this: you’re surely “conservative” (“right leaning”), do your views on the world have anything in common with Lindsey Graham’s or Mitch McConnell’s views? Almost surely not, beyond surface level similarities that would be obviously different below the surface.
Remind me again who's been doing all the attempted assassinations?
Obvious patsies? Or does it not strike you as odd that we know nothing more about the trump shooter today than we did the day it happened?
It’s not outside of the realm of possibility, but it’s far less likely than the bots being theirs.
I could imagine a competitor, or even just someone making some money on the stock freefall, “false flagging” things to make them look even worse, it can’t be that expensive to set up and it has the potential for huge benefits
Also you have to realize there are multiple parties at play here - Disney has incentive to boost the image of ubisoft’s new star wars game, ubisoft has been in the “culture war” lens for a while now with their ass creed decisions n shiet (so it could be part of that without ubisuck’s direct involvement - potentially).
I just happened to watch part of a video where Tony Hinchcliffe says that chinese state media coordinated with a no-name comedian who hinchcliffe called a chink to get him cancelled. One can only assume why, probably just something like stoking the culture war to weaken us but that’s almost beside the point - it’s not immediately obvious who is running any given influence operation:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l5DtpgTOfA4&pp=ygUddG9ueSBoaW5jaGNsaWZmZSB0cmlnb25vbWV0cnk%3D
I was under the impression he had left Crapcom around the time dead rising 2 came out… but this (translation posted by a tranny) calls him “the head of the MegaMan department”…. I wonder if it’s not just that the guy who still works there keeps in touch with Inafune, and the machine translation has confused the hell out of things
Point being: fuck crapcom lol
Based Inafune, he also made Dead Rising
:)
Honestly, I think all the videos have general interest/value even without a personal experience with the area, so don’t let (for example, and to anyone reading) the mention of “the spreadsheet simulator EVE” scare you off from (yet another) interesting example of developers shooting themselves and their GaaS model in the leg, which seems to be disastrously common these days (concord, bungie’s collapse, BioWare’s anthem faceplant and selling off swtor, fo76 launch, etc etc). We see even the “untouchable titans” like WoW and EVE aren’t immune