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Is the Culture War Lost? (written discussion between ex-Muslims Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Sarah Haider) (letter.wiki)
posted 5 years ago by Royalalbatross 5 years ago by Royalalbatross +35 / -0
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– Royalalbatross [S] 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

Haider:

Over the previous few decades, a new ideology had taken hold throughout liberal and progressive circles: writer and cultural critic Wesley Yang called it “the successor ideology,” but now it’s more usually called wokeism. At its core, this ideology is a delegitimization project—and it targets the very foundations of humanist, Enlightenment values. Wokeism is not the only movement to exploit the same programming that makes us vulnerable to religion. But it has achieved astounding success because it has also managed to neutralize liberals, who might otherwise stand against religious impulses, by hijacking our caring instinct, and by ruthlessly exploiting social dynamics to crush dissent. 

Ali:

I now see that it is a distinct and quasi-religious ideology. It is interesting to see the symbiotic relationship there has been between the Islamists and the woke. That may be material for another letter. But for now, I want to respond to your words:  When I first began speaking publicly about Islam, I quickly found ... that those whom I anticipated would be on our side viewed me with suspicion. My criticisms of Islam were based on the very principles that those liberals claimed to champion, and yet I was swiftly rejected by them. This behavior left me stunned and confused, so I set out to understand it. My understanding is that you and I mistook many of the woke for true liberals when in fact they are anything but.

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– w-duranty6489 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

The woke are just socialists.

https://archive.vn/MyKOx newdiscourses

The Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness JULY 28, 2020 ·JAMES LINDSAY

Their underlying assumption is that the elites define what constitutes the ostensibly “authentic” culture in a way that brainwashes the masses into working, voting, buying, and living against their own best interests, and the masses need their consciousnesses raised and made critical so they’d start hating their lives, as the Critical Theorists believed was right and proper for them, and then revolt.

In this way, it’s probably more accurate to describe the efforts of Critical Social Justice not as Marxist but as ethno-communist, where “ethnicity” here applies to the “culture” of any particular “systemically oppressed” identity group.

https://archive.vn/hrXQj newdiscourses

Critical Theories: A Virus on a Liberal Body Politic MARCH 17, 2020 ·JAMES LINDSAY

From this description, it’s immediately clear that critical theory is a different kind of project than critical thinking. It is, in fact, one that, as Bailey tells us, though expressed in terms perhaps more familiar to Neo-Marxist thought, must resist, disrupt, dismantle, and subvert critical thinking because critical thinking is already part of the existing hegemonic system of dominance that defines society.

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