There's a really simple and fair solution to this whole thing: when a person reaches the age where they can vote/sign contracts on their own/etc, they are asked if they agree to abide by the laws of the country, and to generally not try to destroy it. If they agree, they can stay. If they disagree, they get shipped out to whichever shithole country they prefer and they don't come back. If they renege on their agreement - say, after being brainwashed by a college professor who tells them the US is a fascist Nazi state that must be dismantled - both they and the professor (if they've signed such an agreement) are kicked the fuck out, preferably to China, Venezuela or another one of the socialist shitholes these people adore so much, and they aren't allowed back. Simple and fair. You don't get to enjoy the benefits of a civilisation while trying to destroy that civilisation.
I dunno about evicting them to a third-world country, but I've often been a huge proponent of "workfare" instead of "welfare". Y'know who doesn't have time to pop out a pack of kids? Women who are working. Start up a government training program that first centers on child care/food preparation and sock them into that as a requirement to get their monthly stipend. Force them to get GEDs if they don't already have a high school diploma. That way the ones who are having 12 kids by 10 baby-daddies will be properly trained in running a child care facility and Woman A can look after Woman B's kids at the state child care center while Woman B is getting trained for some other state-sponsored position. Once enough of them are trained for non-child-care jobs, put them into state-run positions as well, and make that their job. Guaran-damn-tee you that they'll stop popping out kids if they're too tired from working and they have to do so to keep their housing and monthly money.
And don't get increases based just on how many kids they have.
That's the real flaw with welfare no matter the jurisdiction; it doesn't exist as a hand-up that connects its clients with proper education/training and jobs afterwards, especially when the private sector is dead set against hiring people with work gaps, or who they know are on welfare/living in a shelter. It needs total reform across the board, everywhere in the West. It's frustrating, and gets you nowhere, as if it's designed to keep you from getting anywhere in the first place.
Change my mind: Prisons are a waste of resources unless waiting for a sentence.
yeah in old days they just threw a rope over the branch if a tree
There's a really simple and fair solution to this whole thing: when a person reaches the age where they can vote/sign contracts on their own/etc, they are asked if they agree to abide by the laws of the country, and to generally not try to destroy it. If they agree, they can stay. If they disagree, they get shipped out to whichever shithole country they prefer and they don't come back. If they renege on their agreement - say, after being brainwashed by a college professor who tells them the US is a fascist Nazi state that must be dismantled - both they and the professor (if they've signed such an agreement) are kicked the fuck out, preferably to China, Venezuela or another one of the socialist shitholes these people adore so much, and they aren't allowed back. Simple and fair. You don't get to enjoy the benefits of a civilisation while trying to destroy that civilisation.
I dunno about evicting them to a third-world country, but I've often been a huge proponent of "workfare" instead of "welfare". Y'know who doesn't have time to pop out a pack of kids? Women who are working. Start up a government training program that first centers on child care/food preparation and sock them into that as a requirement to get their monthly stipend. Force them to get GEDs if they don't already have a high school diploma. That way the ones who are having 12 kids by 10 baby-daddies will be properly trained in running a child care facility and Woman A can look after Woman B's kids at the state child care center while Woman B is getting trained for some other state-sponsored position. Once enough of them are trained for non-child-care jobs, put them into state-run positions as well, and make that their job. Guaran-damn-tee you that they'll stop popping out kids if they're too tired from working and they have to do so to keep their housing and monthly money.
And don't get increases based just on how many kids they have.
That's the real flaw with welfare no matter the jurisdiction; it doesn't exist as a hand-up that connects its clients with proper education/training and jobs afterwards, especially when the private sector is dead set against hiring people with work gaps, or who they know are on welfare/living in a shelter. It needs total reform across the board, everywhere in the West. It's frustrating, and gets you nowhere, as if it's designed to keep you from getting anywhere in the first place.
How about, instead of just deporting the work-shy, we put them in camps, and set them free with the dignity of work?