You think here people are healthier? There are taxes on junk food, and everything else (my 10-pound dog has a tax on her and it earns you nothing, I have to pay for medical care, vaccination, chip, everything).
But that doesn't change anything. People still eat like shit, it just costs more. People still don't go to regular checkups. They money procured through putting extra tax on crisps and soda are, in theory, for medical stuff, but you don't see any of that as it's lost in the budget.
Another thing is, companies make their products shittier to avoid tax. I don't drink energy drinks because I don't care for them, but since they introduced this tax energy drinks became lower in the very things that make them ENERGY drinks. They didn't become cheaper, no. Just shittier.
This did not stop ANYONE from eating certain things.
Our experiences are very different. Have you ever tried waiting a week with a tooth that hurt like fuck, even though you paid out of your high as fuck taxes for medical care?
My ex-coworker has to wait months with spinal issues that made him miss work because he couldn't get out of bed. My late grandpa was losing his sight and he would have had to wait months to deteriorate further if he didn't pay. A family member has hearth issues, her dad died of a heart attack. She could feel something was wrong. Her appointment for a full cardiology checkup? In a couple months.
I also work in a healthcare-adjacent field, both for private and government funded doctors. I do see the difference. Not saying all gov ones such, but if you need something elaborate, you WILL have to go to private because they government only provides the basics and that's it. They won't go fancy on your ass.
This did not stop ANYONE from eating certain things.
Unless they magically found more money, I guarantee that they'll eat less of it over time.
I also work in a healthcare-adjacent field, both for private and government funded doctors. I do see the difference. Not saying all gov ones such, but if you need something elaborate, you WILL have to go to private because they government only provides the basics and that's it. They won't go fancy on your ass.
For most-of-most-people's lives, they will not need urgent prodcedures. People might bitch and moan about waiting times for certain things, but the reason those waiting times are there is because, shock, a free service is serving more people than a service that is often very expensive.
If you feel you can't wait for the free service and have the money to go private, great! Good for you! Do it! But there are vastly more people who either can wait, can't pay, or, more often than not, both.
I lived in the US for 4 years. In that brief time I spent more money on healthcare than I have in the 28 years I have been in the UK, despite that fact that I have spent 2 weeks in an NHS hospital hooked up to oxygen, and approximately 6 hours in American ones.
I'm sure you can prove the results of it. I can't see it, I don't see it on the shopping habits of anyone I know. I also don't see people's general health being better since the introduction of it.
Again, I am against a nanny state trying to punish people and basically soft ban things. Either leave us alone OR try proper banning and see the reactions.
There is proof of promiscuity being bad for you. I want to soft punish people for it. Same for using computers/pones too much. Coffee and tea? Makeup and plastic surgery! International travel can be dangerous too. Pets in general, especially dogs and among those certain breeds. Extreme sports.
Can we fuck with everyone please? Life is deadly after all.
First of all, "free" healthcare is NOT free. A huge chunk of every paycheck I get goes to the government as a tax. To me it absolutely fucking isn't free. Maybe it is free for the illegals and welfare queens, but I sure as hell pay for it, even though I am healthy at this point in my life.
Define urgent. A heart issue you know is there, but you don't know what it is exactly and how bad it is should be considered urgent. Things causing you debilitating pain, limiting your movement, stopping you from living a full life (working, doing shit in your free time, playing with your kids, driving, etc.) should be urgent.
And it isn't. Is that whining to you? Because have never had to experience it, your state deteriorating very fast while you still have weeks to your surgery or treatment.
Let me guess, it's not urgent if I'm not bleeding out right now.
I am not going to dig around in your pocket, but I sure as hell wouldn't expect US taxpayers to pay for my health issues. Just like I did not do it living in Sweden, when I needed dental care. It was a fuckton of money, but at the same time I wasn't a taxpaying Swedish citizen.
You think here people are healthier? There are taxes on junk food, and everything else (my 10-pound dog has a tax on her and it earns you nothing, I have to pay for medical care, vaccination, chip, everything).
But that doesn't change anything. People still eat like shit, it just costs more. People still don't go to regular checkups. They money procured through putting extra tax on crisps and soda are, in theory, for medical stuff, but you don't see any of that as it's lost in the budget.
Another thing is, companies make their products shittier to avoid tax. I don't drink energy drinks because I don't care for them, but since they introduced this tax energy drinks became lower in the very things that make them ENERGY drinks. They didn't become cheaper, no. Just shittier.
This did not stop ANYONE from eating certain things.
Our experiences are very different. Have you ever tried waiting a week with a tooth that hurt like fuck, even though you paid out of your high as fuck taxes for medical care?
My ex-coworker has to wait months with spinal issues that made him miss work because he couldn't get out of bed. My late grandpa was losing his sight and he would have had to wait months to deteriorate further if he didn't pay. A family member has hearth issues, her dad died of a heart attack. She could feel something was wrong. Her appointment for a full cardiology checkup? In a couple months.
I also work in a healthcare-adjacent field, both for private and government funded doctors. I do see the difference. Not saying all gov ones such, but if you need something elaborate, you WILL have to go to private because they government only provides the basics and that's it. They won't go fancy on your ass.
Unless they magically found more money, I guarantee that they'll eat less of it over time.
For most-of-most-people's lives, they will not need urgent prodcedures. People might bitch and moan about waiting times for certain things, but the reason those waiting times are there is because, shock, a free service is serving more people than a service that is often very expensive.
If you feel you can't wait for the free service and have the money to go private, great! Good for you! Do it! But there are vastly more people who either can wait, can't pay, or, more often than not, both.
I lived in the US for 4 years. In that brief time I spent more money on healthcare than I have in the 28 years I have been in the UK, despite that fact that I have spent 2 weeks in an NHS hospital hooked up to oxygen, and approximately 6 hours in American ones.
I'm sure you can prove the results of it. I can't see it, I don't see it on the shopping habits of anyone I know. I also don't see people's general health being better since the introduction of it.
Again, I am against a nanny state trying to punish people and basically soft ban things. Either leave us alone OR try proper banning and see the reactions.
There is proof of promiscuity being bad for you. I want to soft punish people for it. Same for using computers/pones too much. Coffee and tea? Makeup and plastic surgery! International travel can be dangerous too. Pets in general, especially dogs and among those certain breeds. Extreme sports.
Can we fuck with everyone please? Life is deadly after all.
First of all, "free" healthcare is NOT free. A huge chunk of every paycheck I get goes to the government as a tax. To me it absolutely fucking isn't free. Maybe it is free for the illegals and welfare queens, but I sure as hell pay for it, even though I am healthy at this point in my life.
Define urgent. A heart issue you know is there, but you don't know what it is exactly and how bad it is should be considered urgent. Things causing you debilitating pain, limiting your movement, stopping you from living a full life (working, doing shit in your free time, playing with your kids, driving, etc.) should be urgent.
And it isn't. Is that whining to you? Because have never had to experience it, your state deteriorating very fast while you still have weeks to your surgery or treatment.
Let me guess, it's not urgent if I'm not bleeding out right now.
I am not going to dig around in your pocket, but I sure as hell wouldn't expect US taxpayers to pay for my health issues. Just like I did not do it living in Sweden, when I needed dental care. It was a fuckton of money, but at the same time I wasn't a taxpaying Swedish citizen.