Look, Im pro 2A as much as anyone. I have my CCW here in MI as well as apparently this couple does. This is not the proper use of force here.
The gun should be drawn only when/if you actually need to fire it. And the lady smacking/punching her car is not enough of a threat to warrant deadly force. A good summary I took from elsewhere:
Regarding deadly force, this section establishes that a person is legally justified in using deadly force to protect themselves or another person, with no duty to retreat, provided:
They are not engaged in a crime
They are in a place they have a right to be (in other words, they are not trespassing)
They honestly and reasonably believe that deadly force is necessary
They are preventing imminent death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault to self or others
While this lady may have been in the right at every point up until then, her firearm should not have been drawn unless she feared bullet point 5, and that is inconceivable here.
As a CCW permit holder, this is a no-no.
Felony assault is probably excessive, but this could be brandishing in michigan, which is a misdemeanor.
The issue is, she was in the car, safe from the altercation. She got out, and escalated and made the situation open to bodily harm. I just dont think that is going to fly from my knowledge of michigan gun law, caveat, IANAL. Just another CCW holder.
Perhaps so, but I would say that when the woman got behind the vehicle and stopped them from leaving again that she was guilty of escalating the situation.
The other poster is kind of wrong as far as suburbs. Michigan is split more Detroit, and a few of its suburbs, and downtown lansing/grand rapids, are D. Where as almost all the rest of the state is R (lansing/GR suburbs included). Its why we generally sit purple more than blue/red.
Look, Im pro 2A as much as anyone. I have my CCW here in MI as well as apparently this couple does. This is not the proper use of force here.
The gun should be drawn only when/if you actually need to fire it. And the lady smacking/punching her car is not enough of a threat to warrant deadly force. A good summary I took from elsewhere:
While this lady may have been in the right at every point up until then, her firearm should not have been drawn unless she feared bullet point 5, and that is inconceivable here.
As a CCW permit holder, this is a no-no.
Felony assault is probably excessive, but this could be brandishing in michigan, which is a misdemeanor.
If the woman is actually pregnant any kind of physical altercation has the potential to greatly harm her or the baby. I say it was justified.
The issue is, she was in the car, safe from the altercation. She got out, and escalated and made the situation open to bodily harm. I just dont think that is going to fly from my knowledge of michigan gun law, caveat, IANAL. Just another CCW holder.
Perhaps so, but I would say that when the woman got behind the vehicle and stopped them from leaving again that she was guilty of escalating the situation.
It's suburban Michigan soooooo yes, most likely.
In that area, almost assuredly
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The other poster is kind of wrong as far as suburbs. Michigan is split more Detroit, and a few of its suburbs, and downtown lansing/grand rapids, are D. Where as almost all the rest of the state is R (lansing/GR suburbs included). Its why we generally sit purple more than blue/red.