The word "faster" is relative. Your comment above is dismissing the negatives of losing even faster than we are currently.
It took an Obama to get a Trump
Seems like three steps back, two steps forward. And that is being charitable. The best outcomes of Trump at this point have been a massive swing in the Overton Window, but until that changes actual realities in the country, it's purely academic.
Do we think the country can survive an Obama 2.0 to get to a better result afterward? Maybe it could, but could it survive in a form where it's even able to be saved?
Seems like three steps back, two steps forward. And that is being charitable. The best outcomes of Trump at this point have been a massive swing in the Overton Window, but until that changes actual realities in the country, it's purely academic.
And? The republicans before Trump were all larger steps back across the board.
Do we think the country can survive an Obama 2.0 to get to a better result afterward? Maybe it could, but could it survive in a form where it's even able to be saved?
And your alternative is? If you’re really trying to claim republicans aren’t more than maybe, maybe a 5 year speed bump you’ve lost the plot.
And? The republicans before Trump were all larger steps back across the board.
That's a fair and valid observation. But I don't really think it's grounds for wanting things to get worse in an attempt to ride the pendulum's counterswing to a desirable location.
And your alternative is? If you’re really trying to claim republicans aren’t more than maybe, maybe a 5 year speed bump you’ve lost the plot.
The overton window shifts over the past decade have been very encouraging. I just personally don't think that accelerating off the cliff is worth the risk at this point, that's all there is to it. Staying the course and continuing to fight could result in a reversal occuring when the country is in a less-broken state than would be yielded by accelerating into oblivion and attempting to rise from the ashes.
The word "faster" is relative. Your comment above is dismissing the negatives of losing even faster than we are currently.
Seems like three steps back, two steps forward. And that is being charitable. The best outcomes of Trump at this point have been a massive swing in the Overton Window, but until that changes actual realities in the country, it's purely academic.
Do we think the country can survive an Obama 2.0 to get to a better result afterward? Maybe it could, but could it survive in a form where it's even able to be saved?
And? The republicans before Trump were all larger steps back across the board.
And your alternative is? If you’re really trying to claim republicans aren’t more than maybe, maybe a 5 year speed bump you’ve lost the plot.
That's a fair and valid observation. But I don't really think it's grounds for wanting things to get worse in an attempt to ride the pendulum's counterswing to a desirable location.
The overton window shifts over the past decade have been very encouraging. I just personally don't think that accelerating off the cliff is worth the risk at this point, that's all there is to it. Staying the course and continuing to fight could result in a reversal occuring when the country is in a less-broken state than would be yielded by accelerating into oblivion and attempting to rise from the ashes.