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How often would you say you dismiss ideas entirely based on who you hear them from vs. the content of the idea itself?
posted 23 hours ago by SmiggieBalls 23 hours ago by SmiggieBalls +24 / -0

Just curious. I don't doubt we all do it to some degree, but I wonder where people draw the line, if at all.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 5 points 19 hours ago +5 / -0

It's far too much effort to remember individual people's names. Like, I will on occasion in passing, but I will register the lies and the deceit before I register who is doing the deceiving.

Any dismissal of ideas based on the source of the ideas would be an up-river issue: The percent of ideas I get exposed to that are sourced from the idiots, irrational, and psychopaths, is far less than that of the sane, rational, and kind. So in a heuristic sense, I dismiss the ideas before the ideas ever reach my ears, because I don't tend to seek out their content.

I'm not going to watch an 8-hour Hasan stream as he zaps his dog, glazes houthi terrorists, and waxes poetic about communism. 8 hours is a lot of verbal output, he probably would have, accidentally, said one or two reasonable and sane things across it. But as I do not watch the stream, I have now dismissed those ideas, alongside his terror-glazing, out of hand: I never even heard them.

If I DO hear the ideas, I'll assess them independently. I may be more prone to charitable interpretations of vague points or unclear conclusions from one side over another, but in terms of the strict statements said, I feel like if they DO manage to reach me, they're impartially assessed.

"That's a great idea. Shame you and yours will never follow it, and it's just propaganda." is often an end-result of the assessment, of course. There's a reason the Motte-And-Bailey argument style works. It's because there IS a valid idea, a defensible stance, at the core of things: they just torture and abuse that stance until it is unrecognizable, then retreat to the sane stance if called out upon.

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