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Utah becomes the first state to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs (web.archive.org)
posted 55 days ago by theaustrianpainter 55 days ago by theaustrianpainter +45 / -0
Utah first state to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs — law goes into effect, designed to prevent...
Senate Bill 73 holds websites liable for users who mask their location.
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– JiggsawCalrissian 35 points 55 days ago +35 / -0

Here we go- the outlawing of VPN starts now

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 15 points 55 days ago +15 / -0

You can't outlaw VPNs... There is no way for the website to even identify the user, and if the website deletes logs, there is nothng anyone can do.

And even if the website keeps log, what are you goign to do? OMG someone with a VPN accessed your website!

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– kalerg_plan 14 points 55 days ago +14 / -0

There are services which store a list of known VPN IPs. It's common for these IPs to be treated differently. Typically extra capchas.

Lawmakers can mandate the use of these services and strip them off 230 protection is they don't. This would make VPNs not illegal, but unusable.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 3 points 55 days ago +3 / -0

Typically extra capchas.

You get extra captcha because the volume from those IPs is greater than usual, making websites think it's a bot.

Also if you are really stuck, you can just set your own VPS (or use custom DNS)

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– kalerg_plan 3 points 54 days ago +3 / -0

I've had some random forum call me out for using a VPN. Twitch and imgur see me and reject my connection from most of my VPNs exits. They know. Cloudflare probably has VPN traffic as a config option.

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– Hullohoomans 1 point 54 days ago +1 / -0

I used a VPN a bunch back in college because the school network was gay. The VPN ran on a buddies spare pc on the other side of the country.

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– kalerg_plan 1 point 54 days ago +1 / -0

The advantage of a VPN is masking your identity. If you tried to torrent movies on your buddy's connection, he'd get the legal notice and probably turn you in.

Now if you were doing something serious like whistleblowing...

It's trivial to make your own VPN, but that isn't the hard part.

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– theaustrianpainter [S] 4 points 55 days ago +4 / -0

The way China controls VPNs is by forcing deep packet inspection at the ISP level. I believe Russia does similar.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 5 points 55 days ago +5 / -0

Yet people still use VPNs in China somehow

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– theaustrianpainter [S] 2 points 55 days ago +2 / -0

Maybe they don't police it for certain uses. I just know the government can still track you in those places, and here as well if they target you.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

Still ways around that. Setup your own remote VPS, doesn't take a meddal.

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– CaptainTrouble 1 point 53 days ago +1 / -0

All public VPNs will be eliminated. People will have to use private VPNs now. This just means the only people who'll be using VPNs soon are a very select few of hardcore users, so few now that AI will be able to relatively accurately identify who you are if you're even slightly known to authorities.

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– Quebec_Is_A_ShitHole 1 point 53 days ago +1 / -0

I doubt it.

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– ParadigmShift2070 11 points 55 days ago +11 / -0

That's antisemitic, 90% of VPN companies are owned by Israeli companies

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– Questionable 1 point 55 days ago +1 / -0

The C.I.A is going to be pissed about this.

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– deleted 1 point 54 days ago +1 / -0

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