I was recently talking to someone about israel/gaza in the context of the new iran war. I couldn’t help but notice we were coming to much the same conclusions, but through totally different lines of thought. To summarize, like most lefties, he opposes israel for “what they’re doing to the locals” i.e. from the perspective of “anti-colonialism”. On the other hand, I oppose israel for what they’re doing to do us in the West.
What is your reaction to a situation like this? And more broadly speaking, what do you think about this notion of coming to the same conclusion as someone else, while following wildly different trains of thought? Try and convince them that their entire perception of the world is upside down? Take it as a win, in an “enemy of my enemy” kind of way? Can they be trusted to ever come to the “correct” conclusion again if their rationale is “wrong”? Or is the line of thought more important than the conclusion? If not in general, can it ever be?
I suppose this post is basically just turning that giancarlo esposito (“you dislike X because Y, I dislike X because Z, we are not the same.”) meme into a text post lmao, but I think there’s actually some kind of important discussion to be had, related to this idea
My reaction is to think that this is going to be a problem. Coming to the same conclusion for completely different reasons helps specifically with the conclusion but then outside of that conclusion, you're still going to have a problem. It doesn't help very much.
Leftists who dislike Israelis genociding Palestinians so they dislike Israel aren't going to side with you trying to exterminate jews in your home country to improve your quality of life. They'll just accuse you of genociding jews then take the side of jews. If Mexicans in Mexico become a huge problem such that the USA invaded Mexico to solve the Mexican problem, these leftists would side with Mexico against the USA in the same way they side with Palestine against Israel.
These leftists are not your friend just because they got to the right conclusion on Israel. That happens from time to time and perhaps it can be capitalized on like promoting ending all American foreign aid to Israel. Both sides can agree on this. But overall, their way of getting to the same conclusion is ultimately the problem and they'll still be your enemy once the dust settles on the one thing you got to the same conclusion on.