Did you read the rest of it? The part where it shows that every single quarter of his first term, more nonwhites were allowed into the US than left? And they came ✡legally✡, so they can never be removed.
There were no deportations. I notice that you don’t even bother to defend your claim that he’s deporting anyone this term, too. That would be because there’s no actual evidence of it anywhere.
My bad for assuming you were still talking about deportations, given the context of this conversation.
You want hard numbers, here's the DHS showing nearly over 295k removals in 2017, which is more than what your unsourced jpgs claimed, with "removal" defined as "the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal. An alien who is removed has administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry owing to the fact of the removal."
I will repeat, 295,000 is infinitely more than zero.
I notice that you don’t even bother to defend your claim that he’s deporting anyone this term, too. That would be because there’s no actual evidence of it anywhere.
the DHS boasts over 500,000 deportations as of last October.
ah, so now we're talking about NET deportations. Nice goalpost move there.
Borrowing the source from the other thread, net deportations in 2017 were actually positive. Now if you're talking net migration, then that is indeed a different story and you'd be correct.
first of all
second of all, your own jpg says over 200000 deportations were conducted in 2017 alone. that's infinitely more than zero.
Nigger, please.
Did you read the rest of it? The part where it shows that every single quarter of his first term, more nonwhites were allowed into the US than left? And they came ✡legally✡, so they can never be removed.
There were no deportations. I notice that you don’t even bother to defend your claim that he’s deporting anyone this term, too. That would be because there’s no actual evidence of it anywhere.
lead with that next time and save us the trouble
you admit yourself that deportations happened. you seem to be conflating deportation numbers with net migration.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH Yeah, that’s what words mean, right? ALL the ones who “left” were “forcibly removed” and definitely didn’t “self-deport,” right?
No, that’s Trump’s administration.
quit being hyperbolic
My bad for assuming you were still talking about deportations, given the context of this conversation.
You want hard numbers, here's the DHS showing nearly over 295k removals in 2017, which is more than what your unsourced jpgs claimed, with "removal" defined as "the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal. An alien who is removed has administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry owing to the fact of the removal."
I will repeat, 295,000 is infinitely more than zero.
https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/yearbook/2017/table39
the DHS boasts over 500,000 deportations as of last October.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/10/27/dhs-removes-more-half-million-illegal-aliens-us
And so if you accept those numbers, you have to accept the numbers the same organizations reported from his first term… with zero net deportations.
ah, so now we're talking about NET deportations. Nice goalpost move there.
Borrowing the source from the other thread, net deportations in 2017 were actually positive. Now if you're talking net migration, then that is indeed a different story and you'd be correct.
https://ohss.dhs.gov/topics/immigration/yearbook/2017/table39