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posted 112 days ago by MuslimsWorshipSatan 112 days ago by MuslimsWorshipSatan +21 / -0
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– current_horror 51 points 112 days ago +51 / -0

95% of everything is garbage. I don't think this is any sort of grand revelation. Game dev overall has never been more accessible or saturated, so it's only natural that cheap indie game dev is full of untalented copycats and low effort asset flips.

And yet: most of my favorite games over the last decade have been indie. Most of the copycats are chasing markets that were established by legitimately great breakthrough hits. There are still clever, creative indie games coming out every year, and they definitely outnumber quality AAA releases. I'm not lacking options, and it's only because indie gaming took off.

What does it matter to me if most of it is trash? Curation has always been necessary for enjoyment of media. The existence of a thousand generic deck builders doesn't devalue Slay the Spire. Flavor of the week friendslop doesn't diminish Deep Rock Galactic. Every other new game being a roguelite doesn't erase FTL, Dead Cells, and Darkest Dungeon.

The harshest critics of indie gaming are almost always cut from the same cloth: young console gamers who still give a shit about graphics. These are the people who mock Slay the Spire 2 while playing Marathon.

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– ChippingToe 8 points 112 days ago +8 / -0

95% of everything is garbage. I don't think this is any sort of grand revelation.

You missed the point entirely. It's not that lots of indie games are trash...the problem is that they are reviewed with way to much leniency (because being a cool gamer these days means cutting indie games miles of slack for some reason). Thus these trash indie games end up with scores that are much higher than they deserve, i.e. overrated.

It's literally the title. And he brought receipts too. Some of that shit really is rated "Overwhelmingly positive".

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– current_horror 11 points 112 days ago +11 / -0

So is the central thesis of the video that reviews are unreliable and easily manipulated? No shit.

Or maybe that alphabet people will endeavor to astroturf their own degenerate or mediocre garbage into the mainstream? That's what "overwhelmingly positive on 500 total reviews" means.

Or that the low bar of entry for indie game dev has generated oceans of unfinished, unpolished, derivative slop? What else even could happen?

It's a contrarian clickbait video that says nothing of value. The main takeaway is that dude has retarded friends.

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– ChippingToe 6 points 112 days ago +6 / -0

So is the central thesis of the video that reviews are unreliable and easily manipulated?

Wrong again. The takeaway is that indie games have a huge dick-riding problem that is unique to them. With triple-A games it's the journalists who focus on meaningless things like dev team diversity and LGBetc characters when writing reviews...with indie games it's the players themselves.

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– AllDueRespect 5 points 112 days ago +5 / -0

I have no idea why you're getting bagged, you're completely right.

Steam aids and abets this too. They make it incredibly easy to be positive and nice (and globohomo) but if you're critical or normal or anti-degenerate, you're battling uphill.

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– current_horror 4 points 111 days ago +4 / -0

Plenty of people dickride AAA as well. The Marathon situation is downright comical. There's just no money or clout in publicly shitting on bad indie games with no sales, so you won't find a hundred hot take youtube videos attacking indie failure number ten thousand and seven. You're mistaking apathy/invisibility for a free pass.

Edit: And if your look into it, indie games absolutely get promoted by certain communities based on LGBTQ bullshit. The video even acknowledged this. That's what furry devs are.

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