I think this is a bit of a strawman and I don't think it does anyone any good to talk past each other like this. I don't see many people at all outright calling for war, and some support for what happened today shouldn't be construed as such.
What happened today is hardly a war, or at least, does not represent the sort of "Global War on Terror" style prolonged conflict that most people are getting at when they say that they don't want any new "wars." It could still devolve into that, but as of now has not.
I am not a fan of these kinds of strikes, but at the same time if it ends up being a short-lived conflict like the one last year, I can also understand those who would assert it's worth it. Accomplish more in 1 day then the War on Terror did in 20 years and leave it at that. If that's all it is, then I could understand the argument that it's not a big deal. I don't necessarily agree but it's important to steelman and not strawman.
The issue for me comes in when this is clearly to pursue the interests of a foreign country and its citizens and not America and its citizens. Using all this military budget spent cucking for Israel's interests on something productive, or lowering taxes, would be much more in the interests of America and its citizens.
I’m not saying that “a war happened today” lol. But what happened was 1000% representative of the “global war on terror” scam that we’ve been getting since the 90s.
I was promised NO new wars and AMERICA first. This is neither.
I'm not trying to say you're saying a war happened today. But you heavily implied the other user is calling for more wars by cheering on or at least being sympathetic to the strikes today. Which isn't apparent from what they posted. Are we at war in Venezuela right now?
And I'm saying the other user is not calling for "more wars" unless you are trying to contend a war happened today. Being nice, I decided not to assume that is what you were trying to say, because that would be retarded. You've confirmed that, so now I am left wondering how the original user is supposedly cheering for more war.
Now, for all I know they are indeed a mouth breathing retard who wants full blown war with Iran. But their post didn't give that much information.
Again I don't personally like or agree with the strikes but I think it's good to understand the rationale of the (mostly) boomers who have been sold the idea that this is a good thing.
Edit: to add, I'm sure the idea is that bombings like this can easily devolve into longer conflicts, and I would agree. But the person who is sympathetic to stuff like this would point to something like Venezuela to show that it can end cleanly and quickly. We will see what happens in this case I guess. Fingers crossed.
I think this is a bit of a strawman and I don't think it does anyone any good to talk past each other like this. I don't see many people at all outright calling for war, and some support for what happened today shouldn't be construed as such.
What happened today is hardly a war, or at least, does not represent the sort of "Global War on Terror" style prolonged conflict that most people are getting at when they say that they don't want any new "wars." It could still devolve into that, but as of now has not.
I am not a fan of these kinds of strikes, but at the same time if it ends up being a short-lived conflict like the one last year, I can also understand those who would assert it's worth it. Accomplish more in 1 day then the War on Terror did in 20 years and leave it at that. If that's all it is, then I could understand the argument that it's not a big deal. I don't necessarily agree but it's important to steelman and not strawman.
The issue for me comes in when this is clearly to pursue the interests of a foreign country and its citizens and not America and its citizens. Using all this military budget spent cucking for Israel's interests on something productive, or lowering taxes, would be much more in the interests of America and its citizens.
I’m not saying that “a war happened today” lol. But what happened was 1000% representative of the “global war on terror” scam that we’ve been getting since the 90s.
I was promised NO new wars and AMERICA first. This is neither.
I'm not trying to say you're saying a war happened today. But you heavily implied the other user is calling for more wars by cheering on or at least being sympathetic to the strikes today. Which isn't apparent from what they posted. Are we at war in Venezuela right now?
Buddy, I’m telling you that im not saying a war happened today. Did you forget the comment you wrote to me before?
No shit a “war” didn’t happen today.
I’m directly implying that the other user, and now probably you, are in favor of more wars.
And I'm saying the other user is not calling for "more wars" unless you are trying to contend a war happened today. Being nice, I decided not to assume that is what you were trying to say, because that would be retarded. You've confirmed that, so now I am left wondering how the original user is supposedly cheering for more war.
Now, for all I know they are indeed a mouth breathing retard who wants full blown war with Iran. But their post didn't give that much information.
Again I don't personally like or agree with the strikes but I think it's good to understand the rationale of the (mostly) boomers who have been sold the idea that this is a good thing.
Edit: to add, I'm sure the idea is that bombings like this can easily devolve into longer conflicts, and I would agree. But the person who is sympathetic to stuff like this would point to something like Venezuela to show that it can end cleanly and quickly. We will see what happens in this case I guess. Fingers crossed.