I dunno what I want to take from that. The purpose of that call was clearly to thank staff at TPUSA, and give some info and smooth some friction as a business leader, not turn it into a group therapy session and make it all about her. I'd be glad if more women could just keep their shit together for 5 minutes to get a job done when necessary. So I don't want to shit on someone if they're doing just that.
It's possible to laugh briefly even when grieving, hell it can make you laugh at weird things you wouldn't normally if you're the kind of person who gets nervous laughter, so that's not proof of anything. And I could probably pull off 90% of that call calmly too if it's a job that needs doing.
But that last 10% man, it's a little creepy. If my wife was murdered in front of me 11 days ago I could not do a calm and airy "My husband's dead, not to be morbid but he is.". That would make me crack. I'd have to avoid saying something so blunt if I didn't want to sound emotional, otherwise it'd be obvious fury or grief no doubt about it. So either all the beauty pageant bullshit has given her a hell of a poker face, or she didn't lose a real loved one so much as a cohabiting business partner.
But tbh being in beauty pageants training you to be very good at putting on a fake smile does seem like a pretty plausible explanation.
It's possible to laugh briefly even when grieving, hell it can make you laugh at weird things you wouldn't normally if you're the kind of person who gets nervous laughter, so that's not proof of anything. And I could probably pull off 90% of that call calmly too if it's a job that needs doing.
But that last 10% man, it's a little creepy. If my wife was murdered in front of me 11 days ago I could not do a calm and airy "My husband's dead, not to be morbid but he is.". That would make me crack. I'd have to avoid saying something so blunt if I didn't want to sound emotional, otherwise it'd be obvious fury or grief no doubt about it. So either all the beauty pageant bullshit has given her a hell of a poker face, or she didn't lose a real loved one so much as a cohabiting business partner.
We're not asking for Erika to break down and start bawling on a business call. We're asking for some kind of tell, nonverbal or otherwise that she is experiencing human emotions about the ridiculously traumatic events that just happened to her. Even when people keep it together you can tell when things are weighing on people from their tone, from stray remarks, their cadence, the subjects they bring up, and on and on.
There is zero tell in the entire call that she lost her husband. Besides, obviously, "I just lost my husband," said in the same affect as "I just crashed my car last week, isn't that crazy?"
Let's not forget that she had no formal role in TPUSA before and she was just handed the reins of the biggest conservative organization in the country. Less than two weeks ago. And juggling two toddlers at the same time! You'd think she'd been president for years! What a gal!
I don't think she's 100% sober, maybe not alcohol but most likely something to "get through" the meeting. That's a far more likely and realistic situation.
"Not behaving like I imagine she should behave" is not evidence. Because if it is, I can claim it's fake because Candace isn't as shocked as I imagine she should be upon hearing this.
I know everyone being an autist is an injoke amongst the terminally online crowd, but I really think this whole thing betrays a lack of life experience amongst people in this crowd.
At some point someone in your family will die, and you will have to push it to the side and continue fulfilling your responsibilities. And when that happens to you, you'll actually be glad of the hour or so of work that allows you to focus on something else and forget how holding your dead Child felt.
At some point someone in your family will die, and you will have to push it to the side and continue fulfilling your responsibilities. And when that happens to you, you'll actually be glad of the hour or so of work that allows you to focus on something else and forget how holding your dead Child felt.
Dude, do you think you're the only person here who lost someone or knows people who lost someone close to them? Seriously? I would bet most of the people here are over 30, with many of them over 40.
The indignation and moralizing in your comment is actually more authentic than anything Erika Kirk has said since the assassination.
Yeah I get it, like I said I reckon I could have done 90% of that too. But that direct addressing of his death at 0 to 100, that's not forgetting it and getting lost in work, and I don't think I could have done it so completely dispassionately. But maybe somebody else can.
I dunno what I want to take from that. The purpose of that call was clearly to thank staff at TPUSA, and give some info and smooth some friction as a business leader, not turn it into a group therapy session and make it all about her. I'd be glad if more women could just keep their shit together for 5 minutes to get a job done when necessary. So I don't want to shit on someone if they're doing just that.
It's possible to laugh briefly even when grieving, hell it can make you laugh at weird things you wouldn't normally if you're the kind of person who gets nervous laughter, so that's not proof of anything. And I could probably pull off 90% of that call calmly too if it's a job that needs doing.
But that last 10% man, it's a little creepy. If my wife was murdered in front of me 11 days ago I could not do a calm and airy "My husband's dead, not to be morbid but he is.". That would make me crack. I'd have to avoid saying something so blunt if I didn't want to sound emotional, otherwise it'd be obvious fury or grief no doubt about it. So either all the beauty pageant bullshit has given her a hell of a poker face, or she didn't lose a real loved one so much as a cohabiting business partner.
But tbh being in beauty pageants training you to be very good at putting on a fake smile does seem like a pretty plausible explanation.
We're not asking for Erika to break down and start bawling on a business call. We're asking for some kind of tell, nonverbal or otherwise that she is experiencing human emotions about the ridiculously traumatic events that just happened to her. Even when people keep it together you can tell when things are weighing on people from their tone, from stray remarks, their cadence, the subjects they bring up, and on and on.
There is zero tell in the entire call that she lost her husband. Besides, obviously, "I just lost my husband," said in the same affect as "I just crashed my car last week, isn't that crazy?"
Let's not forget that she had no formal role in TPUSA before and she was just handed the reins of the biggest conservative organization in the country. Less than two weeks ago. And juggling two toddlers at the same time! You'd think she'd been president for years! What a gal!
I don't think she's 100% sober, maybe not alcohol but most likely something to "get through" the meeting. That's a far more likely and realistic situation.
"Not behaving like I imagine she should behave" is not evidence. Because if it is, I can claim it's fake because Candace isn't as shocked as I imagine she should be upon hearing this.
I know everyone being an autist is an injoke amongst the terminally online crowd, but I really think this whole thing betrays a lack of life experience amongst people in this crowd.
At some point someone in your family will die, and you will have to push it to the side and continue fulfilling your responsibilities. And when that happens to you, you'll actually be glad of the hour or so of work that allows you to focus on something else and forget how holding your dead Child felt.
Dude, do you think you're the only person here who lost someone or knows people who lost someone close to them? Seriously? I would bet most of the people here are over 30, with many of them over 40.
The indignation and moralizing in your comment is actually more authentic than anything Erika Kirk has said since the assassination.
It wasn't directed at you personally.
I know, it was directed at the forum. My point is that almost everybody here is an adult.
Yeah I get it, like I said I reckon I could have done 90% of that too. But that direct addressing of his death at 0 to 100, that's not forgetting it and getting lost in work, and I don't think I could have done it so completely dispassionately. But maybe somebody else can.
That's definitely strange, that part is true.